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 Neoitamus cf. cyanurus NE Poland
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| affiniscyanoviridis |
Posted on 02-11-2016 11:16
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 384 Joined: 22.01.13 |
Hi, for me it looks like Neomochtherus but maybe it is not ... is it possible to ID? 31052016 Best regards J affiniscyanoviridis attached the following image:  [103.68Kb] Edited by affiniscyanoviridis on 03-11-2016 07:31 |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 02-11-2016 13:38
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
A female Neoitamus sp. Looks like N. socius or N. cyanurus to me. Knowing the species is rather hopeless from pictures as far as I know. The development of microtrichia on the basal radial cell needs to be seen to separate both species. However, sometimes a well experienced eye might be able to see something helpful. Wait for Reinoud 
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-11-2016 13:42 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-11-2016 13:41
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19143 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Actually, it is not so hopeless. You can find very nice pictures of socius here http://waarneming.nl/soort/photos/8202 To me, this looks more like cyanurus. Theo |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 02-11-2016 13:51
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Well, Theo, it seems this really needs an expertise eye Certainly, not mine (I still have never seen any of both species in real life) and I wouldn't risk species ID. I only know 'the theory' My idea was that only the microtrichia were diagnostic for females. I truly should keep my mouth shut   |
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| affiniscyanoviridis |
Posted on 03-11-2016 07:30
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 384 Joined: 22.01.13 |
Thank you both of you for the replies. With my best regards Joao |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 03-11-2016 13:20
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2219 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Piluca is a "wijsneus": ))))) Strictly she is right but a pretty reliable character is the colour of the metatarsi. In this case they seem totally black which would strongly suggest N. cyanurus.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| affiniscyanoviridis |
Posted on 04-11-2016 09:42
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 384 Joined: 22.01.13 |
Ok, thanks for the reply. N. cf. cyanurus will continue to be  , if I collected it we will have a confirmation.Best regards Joao |
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