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 Tachinidae, ? from Romania
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| cosmln |
Posted on 15-08-2008 15:35
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Hi, this tachind (from Dexiinae ???, if learned something until now) is very common now on Mentha flower. this phoographed in 5.august.2008 in a hilly area, small clearing in a beech (Fagus) forest, ~700m. several specimens collected. can be IDed further? thanks, cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [103.33Kb] |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 15-08-2008 15:35
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
another view (last one for now)
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-08-2008 17:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Dinera carinifrons, or possibly ferina. Theo |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 15-08-2008 17:49
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Zeegers wrote: Dinera carinifrons, or possibly ferina. Theo thanks Theo, need some detail to be sure? or genitalia? anyway some specimens will go in your & Chris direction. cosmln Edited by cosmln on 15-08-2008 17:50 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-08-2008 18:02
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Would certainly be nice to see specimens of all/any  I have never seen ferina because it doesn't fly here but it should be easy in the keys  |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 18-08-2008 11:50
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Chris Raper wrote: I have never seen ferina because it doesn't fly here but it should be easy in the keys D. ferina is as common as the elks around here.  Especially now in the late summer. I can send you some samples, if interested.Jaakko |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 18-08-2008 11:51
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Chris Raper wrote: I have never seen ferina because it doesn't fly here but it should be easy in the keys D. ferina is as common as the elks around here. Especially now in the late summer. I can send you some samples, if interested.Jaakko |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-08-2008 19:51
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Jaakko, the same is true for England. Cosmln, the difference is easy, but I couldn't see it on the pic DC 3 + 3 -> carinifrons DC 3 + 4 -> ferina Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 18-08-2008 21:46
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Zeegers wrote: Jaakko, the same is true for England. Yup... common as English Elk ... Elephants or Dinosaurs for that matter  |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 18-08-2008 22:46
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Zeegers wrote: Jaakko, the same is true for England. Cosmln, the difference is easy, but I couldn't see it on the pic DC 3 + 3 -> carinifrons DC 3 + 4 -> ferina Theo Hi Theo, i have a lot to learn, and one of this is: what is DC? (i'm guesing some setae, but from where?) i have some other angle, just to know what to search. cosmln |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 22:56
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Dorsocentral. The bristles on scutum. SEE the Overviews, cosmin Imagining a central line on scutum, we have FIRST a row of acrostichals (AT left, and at right in relation to that imaginary median line), then we have dorsocentral bristles. Better to see overviews. It has everything on thorax thread for reference: Acrostichal(s) seta(e) = ac seta(e). Or Ac seta(e). Dorsocentral(s) seta(e) = dc seta(e). Or Dc seta(e). Intra-alar(s) seta(e) = ia seta(e) not intralar or Intra alar. Postsutural dorsocentral(s) seta(e) = post sut dc seta(e) Presutural dorsocentral(s) seta(e) = pre sut dc seta(e) Scutellum = sctl Scutum = sct Transverse suture = ts (on scutum)
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 18-08-2008 22:58 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2008 22:58
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 19-08-2008 06:19
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
thanks a lot Jorge. right now is not easy to browse in threads. Theo from the next image dc 3+4 this will go to D.ferina. thanks to all for the help. cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [125.19Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 19-08-2008 20:19
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Sorry for dropping the DC, Jorge saved my ass, thanks. And so it is D. ferina at last, a smaller male (DC 3 + 4), as well shown in this picture. Theo |
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