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Rhingia ID? --> Rhingia rostrata
Matzke-Hajek
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Posted on 29-10-2021 17:14
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Who can confirm my determination? Rhingia rostrata?
Thanks in advance
Regards - Günter
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Posted on 29-10-2021 17:19
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I forgot to note date and locality:
Today (29. Oct. 2021) in my garden in Alfter-Witterschlick near Bonn, Germany.
 
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Hi Günter, that was my question. It looks exactly like rostrata (mainly red legs, thorax bluegrey...) but this seems to be a spring species. Only campestris should be in the air in October. Do you have a shrper view of the arista?
Edited by eklans on 29-10-2021 17:25
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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here another foto of the head...
 
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There's a second generation - peak September - until October. So I'm quite sure it is rostrata. (The new foto hasn't arrived yet)
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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something went wrong, sorry, second try
 
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grrr
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Yes, looks like the arista is bare (rostrata)!
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Leg colour, lack of black margins of abdomen, and blueish grey thorax led me to rostrata too. Some keys depend on ratio of snout length to eye diameter, but this depends on angle of view and seems not reliable at all. But I didn't know about the phenology - so thanks for your expertise!
Günter
 
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Perhaps you should edit the title bar in accordance with ID.
 
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