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 Bibio clavipes?
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| Katrin Lena Schneider |
Posted on 19-11-2020 11:32
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Member Location: Posts: 50 Joined: 18.07.20 |
Hi, I found this March Fly in the Harz mountains on 9.10.2020. Could it be Bibio clavipes? Katrin Lena Schneider attached the following image:  [197.67Kb] |
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| Katrin Lena Schneider |
Posted on 19-11-2020 11:33
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Member Location: Posts: 50 Joined: 18.07.20 |
nearby I found another exemplar, looking quite similar, at least for me
Katrin Lena Schneider attached the following image:  [178.88Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 19-11-2020 12:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19318 Joined: 21.07.04 |
aany chance of getting a better (sharper) view of the front leg ? Are we sure this is not Dilophus ? Theo |
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| Katrin Lena Schneider |
Posted on 25-12-2020 16:49
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Member Location: Posts: 50 Joined: 18.07.20 |
Sorry, but I have no better image of the front leg. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 25-12-2020 16:56
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 Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10659 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I can see blurry spurs in the second picture, and the r-m crossvein is shorter than usual in Dilophus. It should be one of the late season Bibio. |
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| eklans |
Posted on 25-12-2020 17:28
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4533 Joined: 11.11.18 |
If my eyes don't deceive me, the pterostigma doesn't reach coast cell and the hind metatarsus is less than three times as long as it's width (+ wings are whitish?) = male B. clavipes. (Suomen karvasääsket ja maasääsket (Diptera, Bibionidae ja Pleciidae), Antti Haarto, 2012). Greetings, Eric Edited by eklans on 25-12-2020 17:33 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 26-12-2020 09:24
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19318 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, but check my review in Nederlandse Faunistische Mededelingen. Most traditional features, as summarized by Haarto, are proven unreliable. Theo Edited by Zeegers on 26-12-2020 09:25 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 26-12-2020 13:16
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4533 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Theo, I always start with your key from the Vliegenmepper 1997 and I try to purchase NFM vol. 48 from the EIS for longipes. The traditional features are only unreliable for longipes/clavipes or generally for the Bibionidae? If so, what should I use instead? I have several fotos of couples which I'm trying to identify. Greetings, Eric |
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