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 Thaumatomyia- very curious position
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| Isidro |
Posted on 14-10-2007 14:44
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
I found this small Thaumatomyia in this very curious position in the wall of my house, urba zone with street trees (Gleditsia, Ligustrum and Robinia), Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain, 200 meters high, continental-mediterranean. The fly sizes about 1'5 mm. After photograph it, I saw that the fly was dead. I would like to be sure of the genus and if it's possible, an species approximation.    Thanks. regards  |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 14-10-2007 18:57
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Hello... someone must know it...  |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 14-10-2007 19:06
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7232 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I believe it is Thaumatomyia - the colouration and the very flat-topped scutellum suggest that it is that genus, but I cannot be certain of the species. The appearance of the fly is typical of one that has been attacked by Entomophthora (=Empusa) fungus. I don't know if this is the same species of fungus that attacks Melanostoma, Scathophaga and Muscidae (the flies we often see attacked)
Edited by Tony Irwin on 14-10-2007 19:07 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 14-10-2007 20:23
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Perhaps Thaumatomyia glabra
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| Isidro |
Posted on 14-10-2007 20:44
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
THANKS TO BOTH!!!! I also think that is attacked by fungus... |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 09-09-2008 10:10
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Th. glabra is not cited in Spain. They're cited Th. czernyi (syn= quadrimaculata), Th. notata, Th. rufa (syn =nigrovittata) and Th. sulcifrons (syn= aragonensis). Is one of the four species possible? Thanks |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-09-2008 10:17
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
If the key in Bei-Bienko is reliable at this point, then all of the above can be excluded except czernyi but that is only because it is not included in the key. With the shape of the black part on the occelar triangle I am not certain it is Thaumatomyia when I have looked at that key.
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| Isidro |
Posted on 09-09-2008 11:07
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks, then, is possible that it belongs to another genus???  |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 09-09-2008 11:50
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think this is not Thaumatomyia.
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| Isidro |
Posted on 10-09-2008 09:28
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks, What genus could be probable, then? |
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