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 Chloropidae on artichoke leaf --> Thaumatomyia notata F
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| bertrandpami |
Posted on 10-04-2025 10:12
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 Member Location: France (near Compiègne) Posts: 1202 Joined: 10.06.11 |
Hi, An idea for it ? Cuise-La-Motte (Northen France) - 01-04-2025 Many thanks. Michel bertrandpami attached the following image:  [108.13Kb] Edited by bertrandpami on 17-04-2025 08:47 |
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| bertrandpami |
Posted on 10-04-2025 10:13
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Member Location: France (near Compiègne) Posts: 1202 Joined: 10.06.11 |
Other view :
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 10-04-2025 13:26
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Member Location: Posts: 1266 Joined: 25.03.10 |
Dear Michel, your fly is probably a Thaumatomyia. What seems me more interesting is a rather large pale brownish structure on its scutellum, which reminds a Stigmatomyces fungus. These fungi are species/genus specific but I am not aware about such fungi on Thaumatomyia. If it is really a Stigmatomyces, it should be sent to a specialist. Curiously, this structure appears appears to be lacking in the above picture (in dorsal aspect). |
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| bertrandpami |
Posted on 10-04-2025 15:12
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Member Location: France (near Compiègne) Posts: 1202 Joined: 10.06.11 |
Dear Jan, Thank you for your reply. I had put the insect in a tube without alcohol, probably a mistake, but I've just checked and this is what it gives. If you think we can get something out of it, I can send it to a specialist, but I don't know any. Sincerely, Michel bertrandpami attached the following image:  [193.4Kb] |
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 10-04-2025 18:53
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Member Location: Posts: 1266 Joined: 25.03.10 |
Please send me an e-mail, it does not seem to me appropriate to give colleagues address (es) on the public forum. Keeping the fly dry is not a mistake in this case.
Edited by Jan Maca on 11-04-2025 08:42 |
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| bertrandpami |
Posted on 10-04-2025 22:01
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Member Location: France (near Compiègne) Posts: 1202 Joined: 10.06.11 |
Of course. e-mail sended. Best whishes. Michel |
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| von Tschirnhaus |
Posted on 16-04-2025 18:57
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Member Location: Bielefeld, Germany Posts: 454 Joined: 04.11.07 |
Chloropidae, Chloropinae, Thaumatomyia notata (Meigen, 1830), female. Compare the posts for many further photos of this species. A more or less round dark 3rd antennal segment, frontal triangle with setulae on the triangle, gena narrower than 3rd antennal sdgment high (=deep), apical setae of flat scutellum inserted close together. An irregular Dust particle instead of the thallus of a Laboulbeniales fungus, compare right side of 1st photo. |
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| bertrandpami |
Posted on 17-04-2025 08:45
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Member Location: France (near Compiègne) Posts: 1202 Joined: 10.06.11 |
Many thanks. Michel |
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