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Chionea, lutescens?
Nikita Vikhrev	#1 Posted on 21-10-2005 23:39
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9336 Joined: 24.05.05	Around Moscow, night temp -5, midday - may be +2. Some Diptera! Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


Paul Beuk	#2 Posted on 21-10-2005 23:47
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04	Looks like Chionea, indeed. A Noptera rather than Diptera. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


Nikita Vikhrev	#3 Posted on 22-10-2005 00:00
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9336 Joined: 24.05.05	What I can't understand is what for it has "hindwings" whithout forewings? Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


Louis Boumans	#4 Posted on 23-10-2005 23:26
Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04	Nikita, I presume you mean the halteres? I've never seen such an animal before; just found out that it is a kind of cranefly. Your picture is much better that the other ones I could find on internet. (see this link),


Nikita Vikhrev	#5 Posted on 24-10-2005 02:13
Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9336 Joined: 24.05.05	Yes Louis, I meaned halteres, I didn't find English word. For example, in Moscow city there are Culex pipiens without halteres. They fly soundless but like "ivory". So I thought that it prooved that halteres realy used for fly balance. But Chionea without wings and with halteres is contre this explanation. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University


Dmitry Gavryushin	#6 Posted on 31-10-2005 22:35
Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3308 Joined: 17.10.05	Nikita, here's another one from Moscow region. Found among fallen leaves (Quercus). Pictures were made on Oct.30, 2005, Naro-Fominsk, Moscow region, Russia. I'm not sure about number of segments in antennae, but it looks like there's 7 of them, so it might be Ch. lutescens.