Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 27

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 4,988
· Newest Member: DedeLab
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· nowaytofly00:07:03
· evdb00:07:57
· smol00:25:15
· Volker01:41:56
· Juergen Peters04:23:57
· Nosferatumyia07:23:14
· MichelAngel08:02:28
· serenense708:47:46
· Carnifex09:09:50
· weia09:38:46
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Family forums :: Syrphidae
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Large abdomen (with eggs perhaps?) and green halteres
Stephen
#1 Print Post
Posted on 30-08-2007 22:12
User Avatar

Member

Location: West Virginia USA
Posts: 1322
Joined: 12.04.05

Can someone provide an ID for this nice fly?

Date: 13 July 2007
Location: Mountains, alongside a small river, West Virginia USA
Stephen attached the following image:


[94.88Kb]
Edited by Stephen on 30-08-2007 22:37
--Stephen

Stephen Cresswell
www.americaninsects.net
 
www.americaninsects.net
Stephen
#2 Print Post
Posted on 30-08-2007 22:14
User Avatar

Member

Location: West Virginia USA
Posts: 1322
Joined: 12.04.05

Here's a view of the front of the head.
Stephen attached the following image:


[105Kb]
--Stephen

Stephen Cresswell
www.americaninsects.net
 
www.americaninsects.net
Stephen
#3 Print Post
Posted on 30-08-2007 22:17
User Avatar

Member

Location: West Virginia USA
Posts: 1322
Joined: 12.04.05

Here's the third and final photo.
Stephen attached the following image:


[74.32Kb]
--Stephen

Stephen Cresswell
www.americaninsects.net
 
www.americaninsects.net
Sundew
#4 Print Post
Posted on 31-08-2007 02:17
User Avatar

Member

Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Posts: 3915
Joined: 28.07.07

This is a "pregnant" female, and if the photos were taken in Germany, I would suggest Melanostoma scalare - no idea whether you have the same species in West Virginia. For comparison, look at the pictures given in http://www.natur-...-262.html#.
I hope my amateur opinion is not too far away from truth...
Best wishes, Sundew
 
Susan R Walter
#5 Print Post
Posted on 31-08-2007 09:47
User Avatar

Member

Location: Touraine du Sud, central France
Posts: 1802
Joined: 14.01.06

Definitely M scalare (unless you have some exact lookalike over there). I find only the females of scalare have those acid green halteres, but also the pattern of abdominal spots and facial dusting indicate scalare.
Susan
 
http://loirenature.blogspot.com/
Stephen
#6 Print Post
Posted on 31-08-2007 11:06
User Avatar

Member

Location: West Virginia USA
Posts: 1322
Joined: 12.04.05

Sundew, Susan, thanks very much for your help with this one! Your ID sent me to the site www.nearctica.com, and it lists six Melanostoma spp. for the Nearctic, and they are:

Melanostoma ambigua Fallen 1817 (Scaeva)
Melanostoma angustatum Williston 1887 (Melanostoma)
Melanostoma bicruciata Bigot 1884 (Melanostoma)
Melanostoma dubia Zetterstedt 1838 (Scaeva)
Melanostoma mellina Linnaeus 1758 (Musca)
Melanostoma parva Williston 1882 (Cheilosia)

At www.bugguide.net I found a similar gravid female photos identified by Gerard as Melanostoma mellina (acid green halteres too):

http://bugguide.n...760/bgpage

I don't know if mine is the same species as in the BugGuide photo. At any rate I am very glad to know the genus of this one. Thanks again, Sundew and Susan!
Edited by Stephen on 31-08-2007 11:08
--Stephen

Stephen Cresswell
www.americaninsects.net
 
www.americaninsects.net
Susan R Walter
#7 Print Post
Posted on 31-08-2007 13:33
User Avatar

Member

Location: Touraine du Sud, central France
Posts: 1802
Joined: 14.01.06

Well, now I'm confused - I'll go off and look at some books. Sad
Susan
 
http://loirenature.blogspot.com/
Stephen
#8 Print Post
Posted on 31-08-2007 17:58
User Avatar

Member

Location: West Virginia USA
Posts: 1322
Joined: 12.04.05

Another question I meant to ask before, what is that large round black structure below the antennae?
--Stephen

Stephen Cresswell
www.americaninsects.net
 
www.americaninsects.net
Sundew
#9 Print Post
Posted on 31-08-2007 19:02
User Avatar

Member

Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Posts: 3915
Joined: 28.07.07

In the internet, there is a paper on syrphids by D. Miller (Transactions and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New Zealand, Vol. 53, 1921; http://rsnz.natli...03850.html), where the faces are described:
Face of varying shape; concave, convex, arched, or vertical below antennae, with or without a central tubercle or swelling; sometimes produced at oral margin; clothed with hairs or bare, and sometimes transversely wrinkled; oral margin horizontal, descending or ascending...
In a following key, you get to Melanostoma via
face not vertical to oral margin but with a distinct knob in middle
I could not find a more recent paper explaining the nature of this round knob - sorry! It's just there, fancy Melanostoma design...

Sundew
 
Stephen
#10 Print Post
Posted on 01-09-2007 14:22
User Avatar

Member

Location: West Virginia USA
Posts: 1322
Joined: 12.04.05

Thanks for the info on that unusual facial structure. Maybe someday we will learn a function that it performs!
--Stephen

Stephen Cresswell
www.americaninsects.net
 
www.americaninsects.net
Juergen Peters
#11 Print Post
Posted on 05-09-2007 02:56
User Avatar

Member

Location: northwest Germany
Posts: 13910
Joined: 11.09.04

Hello!

Up to this thread I never noticed green halteres in Melanostoma. Many of them around here (Ostwestfalen/Germany) at the moment, and I assumed them to be mostly M. mellinum. But yesterday I found this female - with light green halteres! Smile
Juergen Peters attached the following image:


[19.71Kb]
Edited by Juergen Peters on 05-09-2007 19:01
Best regards,
Jürgen

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Juergen Peters
Borgholzhausen, Germany
WWW: http://insektenfo...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 
http://insektenfotos.de/forum
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Nematocera from Ecuador, Two unusual sacs at tip of abdomen Diptera (adults) 4 21-11-2024 12:44
Calliphorid with bluish green abdomen (29.09.24) --> Onesia cf. floralis (f) Diptera (adults) 6 04-10-2024 20:51
Pseudonapomyza with excrements/liquid food bubbles<=Female Agromyzidae with their eggs? Diptera (adults) 4 27-09-2024 05:14
Female laying eggs Therevidae - Thereva unica Diptera (adults) 6 13-09-2024 15:36
eggs hatching (Thailand) Other insects, spiders, etc. 3 03-08-2024 02:50
Date and time
24 November 2024 09:32
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

21.11.24 04:50
I can no longer send private messages (and maybe not receive?), even though my inbox and outbox are not yet full. I write, click "send" and they disappear and never show up in the outbox.

08.11.24 17:10
Www.abebooks.com

29.07.24 14:19
Don't suppose anyone knows anwhere selling a copy of Contributions to a Manual of Palaearctic Diptera 2? Always wanted a copy.... Smile

16.07.24 12:37
TumbsUp

11.07.24 13:59
Following up on the update provided by Paul on the donations received in 2024, I just made a donation. Follow my example Wink

17.08.23 16:23
Aneomochtherus

17.08.23 14:54
Tony, I HAD a blank in the file name. Sorry!

17.08.23 14:44
Tony, thanks! I tried it (see "Cylindromyia" Wink but don't see the image in the post.

17.08.23 12:37
pjt - just send the post and attached image. Do not preview thread, as this will lose the link to the image,

16.08.23 09:37
Tried to attach an image to a forum post. jpg, 32kB, 72dpi, no blanks, ... File name is correctly displayed, but when I click "Preview Thread" it just vanishes. Help!

Render time: 1.43 seconds | 204,770,507 unique visits