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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-08-2007 11:47
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9456 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Mosc reg., 23 Aug, forest, 9mm
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 23-08-2007 14:02
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
It appears to lack the postocular fringe, so I think it's more likely to be flavipes
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-08-2007 17:55
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9456 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Tony.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-08-2007 13:51
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9456 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi again, Tony. Now I have better image. Examining collected flies, I think it is same as previos. This time on pasture, on cow dung. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [156.2Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 24-08-2007 20:38
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Nice pics, Nikita! These clearly show the wider frons typical of flavipes and rufipes females, which (together with bipunctatus) lack the continuous fringe of erect pale hairs arount the occiput (back of the head). S. albibarbus, cuprarius and iridatus have the fringe and a narrower frons. The large female of bipunctatus has a pair of orange spots at the base of the abdomen (seldom absent), but the differences between flavipes and rufipes are more subtle. The lower pictures appear to be flavipes, but I wouldn't like to say for sure without seeing specimens. 
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 24-08-2007 20:44
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Great photos. specially the last two! Vivid and metallic colours are not easy subject to photograph! Congratulations, Nikita! Did you put a mask on the face?  lol |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-08-2007 21:12
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9456 Joined: 24.05.05 |
1. Thank you Tony. My impression (regarding material) - was that this hair present all occiput long, though shorter in central part. But I haven't material to compare. Hope to do it next Monday. 2. Did you put a mask on the face? you will never find Dryomyza flaveola
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 24-08-2007 21:48
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Is it a challenge??  Are you defying me? You are in lucky. It will rain here this weekend. 
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 24-08-2007 21:58 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 04-09-2007 23:39
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9456 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Tony, I compared with Museum material. You was quite right - S.flavipes Thanks again, Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-10-2007 17:21
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: 1. Thank you Tony. My impression (regarding material) - was that this hair present all occiput long, though shorter in central part. But I haven't material to compare. Hope to do it next Monday. 2. Did you put a mask on the face? you will never find Dryomyza flaveola Nikita... I found my first Dryomyzidae! Thanks for putting the challenge! Any more suggestions? Obs: I didn't need any mask. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 16-10-2007 17:40
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9456 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Any more suggestions? I have some. This season turkish people can see a strange vacancy acting of two forien tourists. The rented car stoped near dead cat (or hedjehog), tourists (Andrey Ozerov and me) put carrion in the car and go out. We had got not bad results this way
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 16-10-2007 17:44
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
You'll get arrested And the hire car company won't be happy if they find out 
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-10-2007 17:59
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
lol crazy guys indeed.  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-10-2007 18:01
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Susan R Walter wrote: You'll get arrested And the hire car company won't be happy if they find out unless Nikita had bought lots of Channel 5. |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 16-10-2007 20:48
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
If Nikita wears too much Chanel No.5 in Turkey, he'll get arrested anyway!
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-10-2007 21:11
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
lol Tony! Indeed. |
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