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Asilidae? may be Laphria ?
Eitan
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Posted on 29-07-2014 12:36
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the photo is not of the best quality, was taken from 2 m distance. can you identify genus, species?
https://plus.google.com/photos/114645665266628041607/albums/5495646639910847745/6041422319525801074?banner=pwa&pid=6041422319525801074&oid=114645665266628041607
taken in Menashe hills east of the Carmel
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Something like Stenopogon, I would say.
 
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Mark van Veen wrote:
Something like Stenopogon, I would say.



I don't think is from Stenopogoninae s.f., I'd say Asilinae female.

Eitan have you got more photos? Can you share them? Thanks
 
Eitan
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hello Mark
some are here
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Eitan_f#Insects.2C_Spiders_and_Other_Animals
they may be used in acordance with GNU Free Documentation License
some here
https://plus.google.com/photos/114645665266628041607/albums/5495646639910847745
you may use them freely, as well as the photos from the other albums there. i can also share them through G+
i shall appreciate if you inform me where they are used
eitan
 
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Eitan I do have keys for your country from O. Theodor but I need other photos of THIS fly. Only with this one I can just speculate, sorry
 
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hello Mark
the other one as no more information, and then the fly flied... may be i shall meet it again
 
Eitan
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hello Mark
the other one as no more information, and then the fly flied... may be i shall meet it again
Eitan attached the following image:


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hello Mark
the other one as no more information, and then the fly flied... may be i shall meet it again
Eitan attached the following image:


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A bit strange looking Engelepogon (Acanthopleura)First antennal segments seem yellowish that would make it brunnipes but description doesn't fit. Theodor (1980) mentiones only A. goedli and pallida for Israƫl. Neither description seems to fit completely though. The dark paramedian stripe on thorax fits goedli, but the following does not : Light coloured antennal segments 1&2, and the red patch on the ovipositor, also femora should have broad anterior black stripes...colour variation?
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 01-08-2014 22:25
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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Eitan
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thank you Reinoud for the detailed answer.
Eitan
 
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Hello Eitan,

I was looking at a Spanish Neomochtherus and it reminded me very much of your picture....... i blame myself for not taking more genera into account. Maybe you can compare this photo with pictures or, preferably specimens of Neomochtherus illustris so i changed my opinion. : ) Description in Theodor fits perfectly including the red base of ovipositor (although he descibes it as brown(probably studied a collected one : ))) I hope you can compare and let us know!
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 18-08-2014 01:14
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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