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Presumed Fannidae
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Posted on 28-03-2007 07:01
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Is it a very common Musca domestica or something else? Thank you in advance!
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Definitely not Musca domestica - no bend in the M vein. I suspect Fannidae.
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Thank you Suzan! Fannidae is very new and unknown family for me!Shock
 
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Why not Anthomyiidae?
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I vote against Fanniidae tooAngry
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So, according to you it is Anthomyiidae rather than Fannidae. What is the main characteristic feature of Anthomyiidae? I still hesitate when I try to determine the family. I do not know how to separate the families from each other.
 
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Anthomyiidae or Muscidae. The characters separating these two families are rather obscure. They were split only in the 1970s.
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but which are the definitive characters to separate these two families for hard cases? Smile just with genitalia observation?
 
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