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 Three very small flies
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-11-2006 19:49
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Hello! These pics were taken yesterday in Ostwestfalen/Germany in our garden and at the forest edge. Can at least the families be determined? Thanks in advance! The first one was only 2 mm. I have no idea about it.  The second one sat on tree trunks and was about 2.5-3 mm:  The third one was the "largest" with about 4 mm: 
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2006 19:54
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
second - I would say Dolichopodidae third - I would say Lonchaeidae. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2006 19:55
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
perhaps Medetera sp. the second one?? |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2006 19:56
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I will take the risk for the first one... Chloropidae? |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 17-11-2006 20:29
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19365 Joined: 11.05.04 |
First one gives the impression of Ephydridae.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-11-2006 20:32
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13918 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jorge! Thanks! Chloropidae and Dolichopididae/Medetera sound plausible to me. Cannot judge about Lonchaeidae, never saw a male (?) with such large eyes. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-11-2006 20:42
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13918 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Paul! Paul Beuk wrote: First one gives the impression of Ephydridae. (Again overlapping posts...) Thanks! Ephydridae sounds very interesting to me. Never had that family, will take a look at my books for some informations on it. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2006 20:44
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Juergen Peters wrote: Hello, Paul! Paul Beuk wrote: First one gives the impression of Ephydridae. (Again overlapping posts...) Thanks! Ephydridae sounds very interesting to me. Never had that family, will take a look at my books for some informations on it. which books??  I?m interesting to hear. I'm searching for books about dipters... and nothing.  Just Evolution of insects that I will copy....  |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-11-2006 22:15
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13918 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jorge! jorgemotalmeida wrote: which books?? I?m interesting to hear. I have only two books solely on flies, no special literature, and they are in German: 1. Joachim & Hiroko Haupt: "Fliegen und M?cken" (ISBN 3-89440-278-4) 2. Frieder Sauer: "Sauers Naturf?hrer: Fliegen und M?cken" (ISBN 3-923010-07-9) (Fliegen = flies, M?cken = gnats, midges) Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-11-2006 22:32
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
are they well illustrated, Juergen? With wing venation, details on the legs and other characters?...  I hope tthat hey are cheap...
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 18-11-2006 20:19 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 18-11-2006 01:16
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my suggestions (about the flies, not books) 1. Scaptomyza 2. Medetera 3. Muscidae Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 18-11-2006 11:43
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I thought about Scaptomyza (pallida) but the antennae appeared to big to me and the wings too broad...
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-11-2006 18:28
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13918 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jorge! are they well illustrated, Stephen? ?? ;-) With wing venation, details on the legs and other characters?... I hope tthat hey are cheap... The books are only field guides - with nice but only habitus photos (only generic drawings of details of wing venation, bristles etc. in the preface). I've got them from a second-hand book shop for under 10 ? each. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-11-2006 18:30
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13918 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Paul and Tony! I see, theese tiny flies are tricky even on family level. I will try to get better pics next time. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-11-2006 20:23
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Juergen Peters wrote: Hello, Jorge! are they well illustrated, Stephen? ?? ;-) >>>>>>>oopppppsss... I forgot to take my LSD.. lol opsss. not lsd but another thing. ehe  I was in the Moon. I did fix your real name. With wing venation, details on the legs and other characters?... I hope tthat hey are cheap... The books are only field guides - with nice but only habitus photos (only generic drawings of details of wing venation, bristles etc. in the preface). I've got them from a second-hand book shop for under 10 ? each. hmmm... that is what I want. German it is not easy... perhaps there must be another good books concerning this subject. if anyone knows, let us to know. Thank you.... for you, Juergen!
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 18-11-2006 20:26 |
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| pierred |
Posted on 19-11-2006 07:32
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1437 Joined: 21.04.05 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: hmmm... that is what I want. German it is not easy... perhaps there must be another good books concerning this subject. if anyone knows, let us to know. The Haupt exists also in French, and maybe in English too. Pierre Duhem |
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