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 Eupeodes to ID from N Spain, please
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| Marian |
Posted on 16-09-2011 21:27
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 Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
Hi, Syrphid-lovers!  I think this dainty lady is an Eupeodes and somebody told me (  ) she might be Eupeodes luniger. Is it so?Thank you very much for any information about my doubts! Marián Marian attached the following image:  [171.74Kb] |
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| Marian |
Posted on 16-09-2011 21:30
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Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
Another view, showing face and legs, just in case there is useful information there
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-09-2011 22:35
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
do not forget putting the date (at least month).
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 17-09-2011 10:46 |
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| Marian |
Posted on 17-09-2011 06:43
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Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
I'm awfully sorry, I added this thread in a rush and forgot to write the information!!!  Taken in a park in the outskirts of Oviedo, N Spain, in middle July this year |
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| Andre |
Posted on 17-09-2011 17:30
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
It is not possible to give this a waterproof ID, I am sorry. It is close to E. luniger, that is correct, but it may be another species that can only be ID'd by means of a collected specimen. |
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| Marian |
Posted on 23-09-2011 14:13
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Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
Thank you, André, and sorry to be so late answering... I've been away from here for a few days. So, this means Eupeodes luniger never can be told for sure unless it's collected? Or are there other possibilities, for example, males can be identified by photo? Anyway, I'm happy enough with the labelling "Eupeodes cf. luniger". I know Eupeodes is an awkward group to tell the species apart.Cheers Marian |
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| Andre |
Posted on 24-09-2011 20:31
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
In this case c.f. Sometimes it is more clear. But Eupeodes can be very variable. Do you have other pictures of this specimen? |
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| Marian |
Posted on 27-09-2011 10:59
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Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
Hi, André! Yes, I have more pictures... but depending on what you'd like to see maybe they are not good enough. Please tell me what you need to see... I'd be over the Moon if finally it can be confirmed with other views. Cheers |
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| Andre |
Posted on 27-09-2011 12:26
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
One like the first picture, but without moving wings, so there is a better view on the venation. One from the side, hopefully with good view on the scutellum. One from below, for a better view on the sternites. Goodluck! |
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| Marian |
Posted on 28-09-2011 21:09
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Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
Well, Andre, here you have a view of the venation.
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| Marian |
Posted on 28-09-2011 21:14
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Member Location: Oviedo, N Spain Posts: 295 Joined: 24.06.11 |
And this is the best I have from bellow... but I doubt it will help at all. :-( No luck with a better view of the scutellum, the best I have is the first picture of this thread. :-( It was a very dull day, and as I take all my pictures handheld the results were poor due to my shaking hands. If you can't get any further information from these new pics, I'll be happy with the "cf" and anyway I thank you deeply for the effort you are doing with this Eupeodes.
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