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 [Heringia male] Pipiza ?
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Posted on 01-11-2006 06:59
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1465 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, Found this little (6-8mm) black Syrphid with hairy shoulders. pierred attached the following image:  [102.45Kb] Edited by pierred on 04-11-2006 17:54 Pierre Duhem |
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Posted on 01-11-2006 07:02
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1465 Joined: 21.04.05 |
It was cleaning its head, so one can almost see its face on this picture. I find that the face is rather hairy without any knob. More, the front legs are not black. Is it possible to ascertain the species? pierred attached the following image:  [89.62Kb] Pierre Duhem |
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Posted on 04-11-2006 08:37
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1465 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, Nobody has the slightest idea? Thanks in advance. Pierre Duhem |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 04-11-2006 12:55
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hello Pierre, Not Pipiza, because their forehead would protrude conically, that would mean that you would see on a photo like this (the first one) a bigger bulge where the antenna is situated. Also Pipiza would normally be a bit bigger a guess, this one seems rather small. This looks to me like a male in the genus Heringia (Neocnemodon is the old name)!  Greetings, Gerard Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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Posted on 04-11-2006 17:53
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1465 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello Gerard, Thanks for the pointer. Pierre Duhem |
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Posted on 05-11-2006 07:29
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1465 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, Looking in the books of Stubbs and van Ween, it seems me that the third antenna segment is rather oval, this would mean Heringia (Heringia) and not Heringia (Neocnemodon). If this holds true, since H. senilis is treated as a synonym by van Ween and as a "taxon of uncertain status" in Fauna europaea, we should conclude: Heringia (Heringia) heringi. On the other hand, the picture was taken in Paris on October the 31st. Is that not a little late? Pierre Duhem |
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