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jezlee |
Posted on 21-08-2009 09:10
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![]() Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
As a complete novice to the field, I was wondering if any of the resident experts could give me any advice? If I collect a specimen in the field, how do I begin to identify it? I would imagine getting it to family would be the first step; and if so, are there existing keys which would enable me to do that? Sorry if I sound a little confused, it's because I am! ![]() Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
ChrisR |
Posted on 21-08-2009 10:07
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![]() Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7700 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I would start by pinning it properly so that you can manipulate it under a microscope or strong magnifier. Do you have access to a microscope? I have a page about collecting insects on my blog. Next, I would try to get to grips with the different families. After a bit of practice you can spot families that you are interested in in the field but there's nothing better than knowing *why* your fly belongs to a particular group - it can stop you trying to key something in the wrong book ![]() When you have it to family you then have to locate the appropriate key and that should get you to species ![]() Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
Igor Grichanov |
Posted on 21-08-2009 10:15
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![]() Member Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 1746 Joined: 17.08.06 |
As a complete novice, you should visit gallery, http://www.diptera.info/photogallery.php, paying attention to ten most numerous families. I think they include 90% of pictures published here and 90% of flies that you will see in the field. To find a key is the 2nd step. It is easy now by use of Inet.
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Gunnar M Kvifte |
Posted on 23-08-2009 22:39
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Member Location: Kassel, Germany Posts: 436 Joined: 18.08.09 |
Unwin's key is great, I will also recommend Oosterbroek, P. 2006. The European Families of the Diptera. Identification, diagnosis, biology. KNNV Publishing. |
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Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-08-2009 08:01
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![]() Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Unwin's key is great, BUT... * Only usable in the UK (because several families are not inlclded and some diagnostics are based on UK species only, missing out on continental stuff that can then be misidentified). * Outdated in some of the systematics and nomenclature. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
jezlee |
Posted on 24-08-2009 16:59
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![]() Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Thanks for your help, guys – I have since bought Oosterbroek's Guide to European Diptera Families (my bank balance is still recovering!) and downloaded a copy of Unwin's guide also, so I hope I am ready to start. Paul, I live in Wolverhampton, in the UK, so I'm hoping that Unwin's guide will be useful to me anyway, but hopefully I now have Oosterbroek to fall back on. I will keep you all informed how I am getting on - perhaps I will post a photo of a pinned fly and give you my identification, and see if anybody agrees with me? Or not, as the case may be! ![]() Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
jezlee |
Posted on 07-09-2009 15:31
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![]() Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Can anybody help me any further? I have collected a specimen (a common green bottle) and, even though I happened to know the family anyway, I went through the process with Unwin and got it down to Calliphoridae, which is a good start! Now where do I go from here to attempt genus and species? Are there online keys available? ![]() Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
ChrisR |
Posted on 07-09-2009 15:33
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![]() Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7700 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Once you have the family then (until you have built up a library) you have to ask around for key - as you are doing now ![]() Calliphoridae are a bit under-studied but Steven Falk made up his own key a while ago from other literature - a copy & paste job. If you like I can email it over to you ... not sure how comprehensive it is but it is a good start ![]() EDIT: key emailed ![]() Edited by ChrisR on 07-09-2009 15:35 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
jezlee |
Posted on 07-09-2009 15:41
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![]() Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Thanks Chris – I will look forward to seeing it! ![]() p.s. are you always here? ![]() Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
ChrisR |
Posted on 07-09-2009 16:02
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![]() Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7700 Joined: 12.07.04 |
No but it just seems so some days! ![]() Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
jezlee |
Posted on 07-09-2009 17:35
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![]() Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
ChrisR wrote: No but it just seems so some days! ![]() Well, thanks for all your help, kind sir! ![]() Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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