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 little flies on Crataegus
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 02-07-2006 01:13
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 Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
hello flyforum, These two flies were hiding into the bark of Crataegus. Taking pictures from above failed.., so I have to do with these shots.. What kind of flies are these?, or is the crusial information missing for identification? greeting, Robert Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [122.52Kb] |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 02-07-2006 01:14
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
the other one..
Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [67.84Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 02-07-2006 01:14 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-07-2006 09:32
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9336 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Robert. I think - Heleomyzidae, not Suillia. Tree bark is suitable place. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 02-07-2006 12:13
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Pseudolyciella (Lauxaniidae). A few years ago this would've been P. pallidiventris, but this species has since been split into a group of closely related species determinable only by male genitalia.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-07-2006 14:36
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19365 Joined: 11.05.04 |
IMAO: There needs to be some work done on that species complex. The species can be separated on male genitalia only (no female charcters mentioned anywhere at all) and when long series are collected, usually you will find several species and a few intermediate specimens. For the moment Pseudolyciella pallidiventris group is what these specimens can be classified as.
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 02-07-2006 16:41
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I am wondering if you can see any genitalia at all with these tiny flies  For the moment I'll call them Pseudolyciella pallidiventris in my collection/excursionlist. Thanks a lot, robert, |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 03-07-2006 08:17
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19365 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Acutally, for the group of Lauxaniidae, I think they are slightly above average in size. And once available, the genitalia of species in the Pseudolyciella pallidiventris group are quite easy to prepare and view.
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