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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 25-05-2006 23:02
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 Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Hello flyforum, No, I didn't drink to much.., I found some flies with 'redwine' colored-eyes. These kind of flies I didn't see before this year. I think it are Phaonia sp., maiby rufiventris? eyes nice oval-rounded and dark-red femur and tibia yellow(braun), thorax and scutellum yellow(braun) eyes close together(male?) no sharp corners in M1 vein in the wing greeting, Robert Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [76.81Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 04-02-2007 00:04 |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 25-05-2006 23:02
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
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Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [72.77Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:03 |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 25-05-2006 23:03
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
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Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [79.09Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:03 |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 26-05-2006 09:59
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Robert Muscidae. Nice pictures . Second is gallery material I'll try for a species later Phaonia perhaps but we'll see.Robert (again)
Edited by Robert Nash on 26-05-2006 10:00 |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 26-05-2006 11:10
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
In my reference collection this matches only Phaonia subventa (Harris). EDIT: Phaonia rufiventris is also close, but it has a darker, less striped thorax and very narrow black bands across the abdomen on the margins of tergites. Edited by Kahis on 26-05-2006 15:08 Kahis |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 26-05-2006 11:40
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I thought P subventa had a dark median stripe down the abdomen. Does this mean it is a variable feature, or have Nikita and I identified our specimens incorrectly?
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 26-05-2006 11:40
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
In my collection too (some verified by Adrian Pont) it is subventa though it's called variegata (Meigen, 1826) the old but not older name for Phaonia subventa (Harris, 1780).Very narrow black bands. I'll try for photographs to illlustrate both of Kahis very well observed characters especially the abdomen bands.Only some specimens have the dark median stripe mentioned by Susan which I too thought might be a character. These flies are very difficult without chaetotaxy (see glossary soon). Robert Edited by Robert Nash on 26-05-2006 11:47 |
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