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| Gordon |
Posted on 15-09-2008 18:21
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
This one was also flying at 900 ms in the Kerkini mountains of Northern Greece in the same damp habitat, sorry it di not stay around for a top shot.
Gordon attached the following image:  [59.98Kb] |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 15-09-2008 18:32
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I would say Cynomya mortuorum Calliphoridae
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 15-09-2008 20:09
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I doubt this is Cynomya (more than 1 post acr, metallic green thorax). But I won't put a name on this.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-09-2008 20:13
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19071 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, this fooled me once as well. It is a green Rhynchomyia. A similar one in my coll. is IDed by Rognes as Rh. cyanescens. Theo |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 16-09-2008 07:59
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
If it is any help this was a large fly, probably at least 1cm long and thus much bigger than the average calliphorid. I am planning to remember my net next week, so maybe I can catch one while I am chasing the Dragonflies. |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 16-09-2008 13:38
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Curses - wrong again! My very first thought when I saw this fly was the jizz says Rhyncomyia, but then I opted for Cynomya mainly because of the big yellow face.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-09-2008 20:09
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19071 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Susan, if it is any comfort, I made this mistake while having the specimen on a needle. We learn from these mistakes, don't we ? Theo |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-09-2008 20:32
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
The male of the same species from Croatia.
Xespok attached the following image:  [89Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-09-2008 20:33
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
And the female from another view.
Xespok attached the following image:  [103.15Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 17-09-2008 13:28
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Thanks for the kind, encouraging words Theo 
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| Gordon |
Posted on 18-09-2008 06:32
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Thank Everybody, So do I take it that if I labelled this photo Rhynchomyia cyanescens I would probably get away with it? Or is there still doubt, I will try to catch one on sunday, but we have had a few cold wet days this week and it may not be there. Another problem is that Rhynchomyia is not listed on Fauna Europaea (I went to get the authority) the closest I can come is Rhyncomya cyanescens (Loew 1844), if somebody could assure of the correct spelling I would be happy. Edited by Gordon on 18-09-2008 06:46 |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 18-09-2008 13:02
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Gordon - it is two different spellings for the same species and they are probably used equally and there are good arguments for using both/either. I guess in your situation you should go with the Fauna Europaea choice, but Theo (and I) will continue to spell it Rhyncomyia.
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| Gordon |
Posted on 18-09-2008 17:53
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Thanks Susan, That helps me maintain faith in the scientific community, surely there is an orginal discription of the genus? Gordon |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-09-2008 18:41
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19071 Joined: 21.07.04 |
In most cases, I'm aware I'm violating the nomenclatural rules, in this case, I really wasn't. As Susan has pointed out, there is no real difference for me. See old threads on this subject, I don't want to start an argument again and I don't want to tell others what to do in this matter.... and hope they don't want to force me. Theo |
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