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 Andrena marginata??
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 22-05-2008 11:21
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 Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
Hello, I know Andrena marginata is extinct in Holland, but I found this one in Germany near Nordhorn (1. May 2008) in a piny environment, running on the sand. I think antennae match, so does abdomen and eyes. Am I right?    Thanks in advance, Edited by Andre Jas on 23-05-2008 15:07 Andr? Jas |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 22-05-2008 11:23
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Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 23-05-2008 12:24
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Without a photo is a diagnosis difficult. Antennae are not suited for Andrena ID, and A. marginata can be confused with other species or genera, depending of your level of bee knowledge. The species is really rare. Regards, Christian |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 23-05-2008 15:07
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Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
I put external images in now, ?os I couldn't get them uploaded to diptera.info?
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 23-05-2008 15:52
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Ok, now I see some photos. You found a Sphecodes spec. (species ID not possible). Regards, Christian |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 23-05-2008 16:50
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Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
Hello Christian, I see Sphecodes species have various forms of antennae? Is that correct? I'll put it down as Sphecodes sp. Vielen Dank, Andr? Jas |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 23-05-2008 17:14
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Ouf, you worried me Christian  !
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 23-05-2008 19:30
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Hi Andr?, what do you mean with antennae? I see three Sphecodes females (or the same specimen) with exact the same antennae. Males have different antennae, compared with females, but otherwise they are more or less similar. For species ID with a microscope, you may use some antennal characters both in Spheodes males as in Andrena. Regards, Christian |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 25-05-2008 21:55
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Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
Hi Christian, It's indeed one and the same spec. What I meant is that I didn't know that male and females have different shaped antennae. Now the picture is clear to me. Thanks a lot 
Andr? Jas |
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