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 Sinai. Muscidae?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 11-02-2006 20:27
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Not common, 7-9mm.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-02-2006 18:19
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19002 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Anthomyia pluvialis or cousin Theo Zeegers |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-02-2006 18:58
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Thank you Theo. Yes, this time it seems to me even visible that A go till wing margin. But I thought, what the hell Anthomyiidae in desert without flowers?
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 14-02-2006 08:33
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Oke, I can tell you that. Anthomyia pluvialis is a man-following species: everywhere where man lives, you see Anthomyia. That is, certainly in the subtropics. Probably the larvae occur in man's garbage, like kitchen litter. Theo |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 14-02-2006 20:33
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Thank you Theo. According my key (Diptera of Eur Russ), rather cousin than Anthomyia pluvialis. Scutellum grey with black spots - A. pluvialis, Scutellum black with grey top - A. procellaris, which is the case, I think. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-02-2006 19:06
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Right Thanks for pointing that out. Theo |
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| Dima DD |
Posted on 19-02-2006 03:56
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote: According my key (Diptera of Eur Russ), rather cousin than Anthomyia pluvialis. Scutellum grey with black spots - A. pluvialis, Scutellum black with grey top - A. procellaris, which is the case, I think. Nikita, the first photo of Anthomyia pluvialis in the gallery (male) has got black scutellum with grey top, isn't it?  Look at females posted by Sarah, too: http://www.dipter...ad_id=1110. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-02-2006 23:37
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9459 Joined: 24.05.05 |
More information born more questions. Thailand. Is this fly some Oriental speciec of Anthomyia, please. Same size. 
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| Dima DD |
Posted on 25-02-2006 16:47
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May it be male of the same species as in the 1st photo? Dima DD Edited by Dima DD on 25-02-2006 16:48 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 25-02-2006 17:25
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I don't think so. Thai fly has black bend on abdomen instead of 2 or 3 black spots. May be Theo knows...
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-01-2007 11:32
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9459 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Returning to first Anthomyia (from Sinai). It is good illustration how difficult to learn Diptera. During half year I tried to ID Anthomyiidae, using this fly as material with known genus to compare with. And during half year I can't understand what does mean "proepisternum bare/pilose", because proepisternum of this Anthomyia looks bare, but has to be pilose. Finally, with help of Ackland key I found answer - it is neither A. pluvialis, nor A. procellaris, but female of species group of Anthomyia with bare proepisternum! Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-01-2008 18:42
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9459 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Coming back to first image in this old post I have to say that at my current opinion the answer on question "Sinai. Muscidae" is "Yes, Muscidae, Brontaea tonitrui, var. canache"
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 24-01-2008 19:00
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a muscid like-anthomyiid.  crazy! |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-01-2008 21:36
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19002 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I will never ever identify a Muscidae again, nor a Anthomyiidae for that matter. Nikita convinced me just now. Theo |
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