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Sinai. Muscidae?
Nikita Vikhrev
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Posted on 11-02-2006 20:27
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Not common, 7-9mm.
www.diptera.info/forim/5-1207-1.jpg
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Anthomyia pluvialis or cousin


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Thank you Theo. Yes, this time it seems to me even visible that A go till wing margin. But I thought, what the hell Anthomyiidae in desert without flowers?
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Oke, I can tell you that.


Anthomyia pluvialis is a man-following species: everywhere where man lives, you see Anthomyia. That is, certainly in the subtropics.
Probably the larvae occur in man's garbage, like kitchen litter.


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Thank you Theo.
According my key (Diptera of Eur Russ), rather cousin than Anthomyia pluvialis.
Scutellum grey with black spots - A. pluvialis,
Scutellum black with grey top - A. procellaris, which is the case, I think.
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Right

Thanks for pointing that out.


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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
According my key (Diptera of Eur Russ), rather cousin than Anthomyia pluvialis.
Scutellum grey with black spots - A. pluvialis,
Scutellum black with grey top - A. procellaris, which is the case, I think.

Nikita,
the first photo of Anthomyia pluvialis in the gallery (male) has got black scutellum with grey top, isn't it? Wink Look at females posted by Sarah, too: http://www.dipter...ad_id=1110.
 
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More information born more questions.
Thailand. Is this fly some Oriental speciec of Anthomyia, please. Same size.
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May it be male of the same species as in the 1st photo?
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I don't think so. Thai fly has black bend on abdomen instead of 2 or 3 black spots. May be Theo knows...
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Returning to first Anthomyia (from Sinai).
It is good illustration how difficult to learn Diptera.
During half year I tried to ID Anthomyiidae, using this fly as material with known genus to compare with. And during half year I can't understand what does mean "proepisternum bare/pilose", because proepisternum of this Anthomyia looks bare, but has to be pilose.
Finally, with help of Ackland key I found answer - it is neither A. pluvialis, nor A. procellaris, but female of species group of Anthomyia with bare proepisternum!
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Coming back to first image in this old post I have to say that at my current opinion the answer on question "Sinai. Muscidae" is "Yes, Muscidae, Brontaea tonitrui, var. canache"
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a muscid like-anthomyiid. Frown crazy! ShockShock
 
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I will never ever identify a Muscidae again, nor a Anthomyiidae for that matter. Nikita convinced me just now.


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