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Wasp drone ? Vespula vulgaris ?
Volkmar
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Posted on 25-11-2024 20:34
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Found today, I think it's a drone, Vespula vulgaris. I took it into the house and feeded it with some honey, after that, I removed it back to the house wall.

Data: Germany, North Rhine-Westphalia, D-59821 Arnsberg, 235 m, 25.11.2024.

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Do you have an image showing the complete antenna?
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Hello Eric,

here is a picture of the complete antenna. I count 13 antennal segments, but I'm not so sure, so I think it's a male.

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This morning I found it unfortunately absorbed by a harvest spider.

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Poor man! Yes, it is a male and the parallel-sided humeral strip and the indented yellow patch in the eye points to V. vulgaris but the face looks more like V. germanica. And I have never seen a Vespula sp. with that long silvery hair! So I don't dare to give the species a name other than Vespula cf. vulgaris!
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Thank you Eric for your assessment ! I also have never seen a wasp with such long silvery hair!
Greetings Volkmar
 
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Volkmar, can we see uper tooth of mandibles?
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I hope it fits, Volkmar
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Hello Eric,
after consulting an expert who regularly relocates wasp colonies, it is a fresh young male wasp, that loses it's silver hair over time or some of it turn black later.
Best regards, Volkmar
 
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