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 Haematopota italica ? (2nd specimen) - north-western France
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 05-09-2024 13:28
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Member Location: Posts: 95 Joined: 15.07.24 |
an other specimen found also in a moor. Spot on tergites 3 to 6. First antennal segment long with a small constriction, black-grey. Femora orange/ brown (exactly as bigoti). Is it ok for italica ? BLecaplain attached the following image:  [136.38Kb] Edited by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 13:28 |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 05-09-2024 13:30
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 05-09-2024 13:30
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 05-09-2024 13:31
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 09-09-2024 21:11
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I have a doubt with this one, could it be gallica ? The first segment is not so long as italica in direct comparaison with the other specimen in my other post. (And I found two specimens of gallica in our pro collection, identified by M. Portillo, same area, North western France)
Edited by BLecaplain on 10-09-2024 16:04 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-09-2024 18:44
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19204 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Gallica is just a synonym of italica, it is a "ghost species" And yes, very nice female italica. In doubt, colouration of femora is a big clue (otherwise only found in bigoti, very different, and grandis) Theo |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 10-09-2024 19:42
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Thanks Theo ! Where can I find the publication where gallica and italica are synonymized ? For my information and for actualisation of national liste. Benoît |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 11-09-2024 09:39
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19204 Joined: 21.07.04 |
As I recall, it was a publication by Wolfgang Schacht, but I cannot find it 1-2-3. In any case, given as synonym by Portillo for Iberian peninsula. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 11-09-2024 09:45
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19204 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It was in an appendix, therefore difficult to find  https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0005_0483-0498.pdf |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 11-09-2024 11:19
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Member Location: Posts: 95 Joined: 15.07.24 |
Thanks Theo |
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