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Clytiomyia continua? Eliozeta pellucens? --> Eliozeta helluo
Jann Wuebbenhorst
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Posted on 22-05-2024 16:26
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I found this Tachinid yesterday (21st May 2024) on Leucanthemum vulgare, on a dry meadow near the Elbe river (Lüneburg, Niedersachsen, Germany)
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Hi Jann, I think it's a male Eliozeta helluo.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Hi Eric,
nice - E. helluo ist not listed yet for Niedersachsen.
Greetings,
Jann
 
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To me, a clear male E. pellucens, based on arista, length of third antennal segment and abdominal colour.

Theo
 
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Posted on 01-06-2024 10:36
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But aren't the antennae distinctly separated?

T&H key:
helluo: Antennae at their base separated by at least half the width of the 1st antennal segment.
pellucens: Antennae hardly separated at their base.; they almost touch.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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I have no idea, I'd never use that. but for reasons given, to me pellucens.

You can compare pics of validated males and I hope you see my points.

Theo
 
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