Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Australian Diptera. Tephritoidea?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 17-10-2023 08:07
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9542 Joined: 24.05.05 |
My good colleague sent me couple images from inaturalist from near Brisbane from 14.10.2023. May be somebody has any idea? Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [45.89Kb] Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 18-10-2023 09:00 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 17-10-2023 08:08
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9542 Joined: 24.05.05 |
second image
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [45.12Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 17-10-2023 21:54
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 Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10623 Joined: 22.10.10 |
With those wings it looks like it should be Tephritoidea. It is not Platystomatidae due to the subcostal break. It is not any of the four species of Australian Ulidiidae. It is none of the common subfamilies of Tephritidae because the subcosta is not bent strongly at the distal end. Pyrgotidae are usually weird-looking. There is one species of Piophilidae. I do not know what it looks like. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 18-10-2023 08:59
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9542 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi John. 1. Australian Piophilosoma (=Thyreophora) antipodum Osten Sacken, 1881 looks quite different: https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4130228505 2. For me this fly has some Calyptrate jizz, because of t2 with 2 pd and 1ad setae. And frons looks like that of Fanniidae. One more unusual character is closely approximated crossveins r-m and m-cu, like in Carnidae. 3. I changed title to attract Tephritoidea expert. Let's wait for their opinion(s). Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 18-10-2023 13:59
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Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10623 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I had the same observation about the frons. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 19-10-2023 15:19
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9542 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Alas, Australian Fanniidae are well revised by Pont (1973). There isn't such fly...
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 19-10-2023 15:44
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Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10623 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Pont has several publications on Australian Muscidae. None of the species in Dichaetomyia or Muscinae look like this. Other papers are paywalled. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 25-12-2023 16:20
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9542 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Coming back to this enigmatic fly. This time from the very South of Australia, from Morwell National Park (Victoria). This time we can see 1 ad and 2 pd on t2; at least 1 strong ad on t3. This fly makes me sleepless! Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [85.19Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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