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 Cheilosia
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| Bottin |
Posted on 12-06-2021 21:05
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Member Location: Coulommiers 77 Posts: 27 Joined: 10.11.18 |
Hello, For this one, I started with the idea of C. vulpina but il seems that's not him For me, face and eyes are hairy. If someone can help me :  Julien Bottinelli : France : Pommeuse : 77515 : 23/05/2021 Altitude : 80 m - Taille : 9 mm Réf. : 283581 Thank you by advance Bottin |
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| helge |
Posted on 14-06-2021 18:34
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Member Location: Austria Posts: 1322 Joined: 10.02.16 |
C. barbata subgroup, but difficult, we need a closer look at the genital structure. |
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| Bottin |
Posted on 14-06-2021 21:19
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Member Location: Coulommiers 77 Posts: 27 Joined: 10.11.18 |
It's done I hope this is good views !  Julien Bottinelli : France : Pommeuse : 77515 : 23/05/2021 Altitude : 80 m - Taille : 9 mm Réf. : 284034 |
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| helge |
Posted on 15-06-2021 12:31
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Member Location: Austria Posts: 1322 Joined: 10.02.16 |
Hi Bottin, nice work - but unfortunately the pics are are too blurry. Please compare with this key: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3592267/ (My guess: C. barbata) Helge |
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| Bottin |
Posted on 15-06-2021 20:00
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Member Location: Coulommiers 77 Posts: 27 Joined: 10.11.18 |
Hi helge, I tried better views but I d'ont know if the angle is good I think it looks like barbata  Julien Bottinelli : France : Pommeuse : 77515 : 23/05/2021 Altitude : 80 m - Taille : 9 mm Réf. : 284110 |
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| helge |
Posted on 16-06-2021 17:28
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Member Location: Austria Posts: 1322 Joined: 10.02.16 |
Hi Julien, looks good! - I compared with my specimen. C. barbata it is. (Nevertheless, it is very difficult to identify Cheilosia specimens from pictures alone.) Best wishes, Helge |
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| Bottin |
Posted on 16-06-2021 19:48
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Member Location: Coulommiers 77 Posts: 27 Joined: 10.11.18 |
Great ! Thank you Helge for your help ! Bottin |
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