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Quiz: Thaumaleidae: Thaumalea
Paul Beuk
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Posted on 03-10-2008 09:03
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At last, one sample with both a male and a female. And the female, I think already was one I had not seen before and now with the male I can add Androprosopa intermedia (Schmid, 1958) to the Greek list and start working on the description of the female (if I ever find the time).

On a side note: The character to separate (at least some) female Androprosopa from Thaumalea is virtually worthless: Cerci hardly longer than broad for Androprosopa/Protothaumalea and distinctly longer than broad for Thaumalea. Even from Wagner's illustrations of Protothaumalea (Figs. 5e, 5i) and Androprosopa (Fig. 7h) it is clear to see that some have cerci that are easily mistaken as being longer than broad; and from some illustrations of Thamalea (Figs. 21c, 21f) the reverse is clear. I consider the cerci of the female of A. intermedia also to have cerci that are distinctly longer than broad.
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Thamalea bezzii now confirmed by a male specimen.
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So another distribution gap is filled. Smile
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And another family for Gallery!

Thaumaleids of Hungary were also a mistery. For example Thaumalea talhammeri was described from W-Hungary, the types were lost, as were all but 3 specimens of other species in the Natural History Museum of Hungary. Not so long ago, Laszlo Papp collected a dozen specimens in some locations, and redescribed T talhammeri as a valid species, when I correctly remember, anyway, I have the paper. Most of the Hungarian specimens were collected in by a brook not far from where I live, I was there several times but didn't see any Sad
 
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