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 Conopidae fly - Myopa picta (male)
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 17:43
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.04.18 * size - 7 mm (large fly) * habitat - openland * substrate - grass I think in Myopa sp. EDIT --->> changed the title "Conopidae fly - Myopa sp." to "Conopidae fly - Myopa buccata" and in 2 May 2007 to a possible "Conopidae fly - Myopa cf. picta (it was M. buccata)" and then in 19th May 2007 changed finally to "Conopidae fly - Myopa picta (male)" jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [190.46Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 19-05-2007 20:02 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 17:43
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
other view
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 17:44
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
and another view
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 19-04-2007 19:00
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19368 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Wow, what a beautiful monster you have there! 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 19:07
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
yes.  yesterday the temperatures reached almost 30 ?C in some places. At least, was about 25 ?C (but today is raining and temperatures dropped a little about 20 ?C) |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-04-2007 19:15
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13921 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jorge! jorgemotalmeida wrote: yes. yesterday the temperatures reached almost 30 ?C in some places.Almost?  Last sunday we had 31 ?C here in northwest Germany! (all time high for April...).
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 19-04-2007 20:07
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7234 Joined: 19.11.04 |
This specimen appears to fit Seguy's (out-of-date) 1928 description of Myopa variegata, but it's not a species we have in Britain, so I can't say for sure. 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 20:13
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
hi Tony Thanks a lot! Which kind of photo you need to be sure about Myopa variegata? We need to be sure so gallery can grow more and more. |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 19-04-2007 20:33
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7234 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Your photos are great, Jorge! I just need a more up-to-date paper or a reference collection!  But perhaps someone on the forum knows variegata - it is a widespread species in Europe - and will be able to confirm this.
Edited by Tony Irwin on 19-04-2007 20:34 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 20:44
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
thanks. and what about this? http://home.hccnet.nl/mp.van.veen/conopidae/myopa.html#intro Tergite 4 and 5 with silvergrey dusting, at the front border with two large, dark rectangular spots without dust, these spots well separated; face: at the mouth edge left and right a thin black stripe. 6-8 mm. -> Myopa variegata Meigen |
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| Guenter |
Posted on 19-04-2007 21:04
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Member Location: Dornbirn, Austria Posts: 278 Joined: 09.12.05 |
I guess Jens-Hermann Stuke can tell you exactly what species it is, send the photos to him: jstuke at zfn.uni-bremen.de
Edited by Guenter on 19-04-2007 21:05 Günter Schwendinger |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-04-2007 22:27
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
thank you. I wrote to him since 1 hour 30 min ago. I hope we can have the confirmation... but if someone knows about this one, please let us know. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-04-2007 08:33
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Jens-Hermann Stuke replied to me: "I guess it is Myopa buccata: The wings are darkened and I guess I can see the white crossvein. Additional the species has a haired face and black spots on the occiput." So, almost probable to be Myopa buccata. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-04-2007 12:33
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
do you confirm that the whitish crossvein to ID M. buccata is right? Thank you! jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [193.75Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-04-2007 22:00
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
just to show a magnification above 3:1 of the head. Of course the dof in high magnification turns more smaller. But here it goes the head of Myopa buccata. You can see the terminal arista typical for conopid flies.
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| David Clements |
Posted on 22-04-2007 16:57
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Member Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 80 Joined: 21.04.07 |
I am not so sure that this is Myopa buccata. The middle crossvein (R-M) is, as far as I can tell, blackish and it is this vein which is diagnostically whitish in buccata. The arrowed whitish crossvein appears to be M-Cu. Superficially the species looks very like variegata, but the wing-markings and occiptal 'beard' rule this out. It could be an aberrant buccata, but my feeling is that this is something altogether different. |
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| fleabag |
Posted on 22-04-2007 17:15
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 Member Location: Sussex UK Posts: 183 Joined: 13.07.06 |
wow ...crazy looking fly |
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| Guenter |
Posted on 24-04-2007 16:12
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Member Location: Dornbirn, Austria Posts: 278 Joined: 09.12.05 |
Beautiful! I love this group.
Günter Schwendinger |
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 25-04-2007 23:56
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 Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
My pictures of myopa buccata, and those in the gallery, do not show the black-bordered white bands on the femora shown on the pictures above. I'm not sure if that helps though. |
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| Mark van Veen |
Posted on 02-05-2007 13:33
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 Member Location: Zeist, Netherlands Posts: 145 Joined: 12.05.04 |
It reminds me of Myopa picta. The cross-vein at the basis of cell R is black (the cell is rather short, so the cross vein is at about the middle of the wing). Cell R seems to have a black patch in it, typical for this species. Further, the colouration of the head matches. |
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