Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calobata petronella? -> Neria cibaria!

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 09-03-2021 17:01
#1

date: 6 June 2019; location: in Hamburg, Germany, in my garden which is close to a park area with trees and a pond;
a female of Calobata petronella?
Thanks for ID help!
Best regards, Volker

Edited by Volker Achterberg on 14-03-2021 12:42

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 09-03-2021 17:01
#2

2nd picture

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 09-03-2021 17:02
#3

3rd picture

Posted by Darwyn Sumner on 14-03-2021 08:46
#4

A tricky one Volker.
For Calobata petronella one would expect to see brown humeri. A vague suggestion of that in the top picture but not in the third one.
The ovipositor shape could be a bit of a clue, in C. petronella it starts bulbous then narrows. I'm more inclined towards Neria cibaria where the ovipositor is black with a kink.
Take a look at Calobata petronella http://micropezid...my/term/15
and Neria cibaria http://micropezid...my/term/20

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 14-03-2021 12:40
#5

Thanks a lot, Darwyn, for ID help with excellent explanations!
Thank you also for the link to the Micropezidae website.
I attached another picture where the whole ovipositor is visible.
Best regards,
Volker

Edited by Volker Achterberg on 14-03-2021 12:41