Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Amblyteles armatorius or Ichneumon sarcitorius ?
Posted by valter on 19-11-2007 11:50
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Location: Algarve (Eastern), Portugal
Date Photo Taken: November 18, 2007
Edited by valter on 19-11-2007 16:08
Posted by crex on 19-11-2007 11:52
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Hymenoptera
Posted by Paul Beuk on 19-11-2007 12:08
#3
valter, if you suspect it is not Diptera, please post in the Other insects forum.
Posted by Xespok on 19-11-2007 12:21
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Ichneumonidae, likely subfamily Icheneumoninae.
Posted by cthirion on 19-11-2007 13:08
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Ichneumonidae Ichneumoninae Ichneumon sarcitorius male
Posted by Isidro on 19-11-2007 15:44
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Ichneumon sarcitorius? I said it in another site Amblyteles armatorius... I have one identical, and identified here as A. armatorius...
Posted by cthirion on 19-11-2007 17:34
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Not impossible,..... two spines at apex thorax?????
Postpetiole with pattern yellow at apex!
Trochanter and trochantelleus black and yellow?
Posted by Isidro on 19-11-2007 17:54
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ohhh, you are right.
In my exemplar, I can't see the spnes and the postpetiole but trochanters are completely yellow, but in Valter's image are completely black.
So, I. sarcitorius must be correct for Valter's image...
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=9168
Sorry by the mistake
Posted by cthirion on 19-11-2007 19:15
#9
Difficult!
Amblytles armatorius male:
Two spines at apex thorax,
Trochanter et trochantellus yellow
postpetiole black
Ichneumon sarcitorius
No spines
Trochanter black, trochantellus yellow
postpetiole avec pattern yellow
:)