Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Amblyteles armatorius or Ichneumon sarcitorius ?

Posted by valter on 19-11-2007 11:50
#1

Location: Algarve (Eastern), Portugal

Date Photo Taken: November 18, 2007

Edited by valter on 19-11-2007 16:08

Posted by crex on 19-11-2007 11:52
#2

Hymenoptera

Posted by Paul Beuk on 19-11-2007 12:08
#3

valter, if you suspect it is not Diptera, please post in the Other insects forum.

Posted by Xespok on 19-11-2007 12:21
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Ichneumonidae, likely subfamily Icheneumoninae.

Posted by cthirion on 19-11-2007 13:08
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Ichneumonidae Ichneumoninae Ichneumon sarcitorius male

Posted by Isidro on 19-11-2007 15:44
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Ichneumon sarcitorius? I said it in another site Amblyteles armatorius... I have one identical, and identified here as A. armatorius...

Posted by cthirion on 19-11-2007 17:34
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Not impossible,..... two spines at apex thorax?????

Postpetiole with pattern yellow at apex!
Trochanter and trochantelleus black and yellow?

Posted by Isidro on 19-11-2007 17:54
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ohhh, you are right.

In my exemplar, I can't see the spnes and the postpetiole but trochanters are completely yellow, but in Valter's image are completely black.

So, I. sarcitorius must be correct for Valter's image...

http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=9168

Sorry by the mistake

Posted by cthirion on 19-11-2007 19:15
#9

Difficult!

Amblytles armatorius male:
Two spines at apex thorax,
Trochanter et trochantellus yellow
postpetiole black

Ichneumon sarcitorius
No spines
Trochanter black, trochantellus yellow
postpetiole avec pattern yellow
:)