Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tenthredinidae?

Posted by stober on 19-06-2020 15:05
#1

Hello :)
The picture from Poland. I suppose there is a sawfly from Tenthredinidae family, but I'm not sure. Moreover, maybe somebody know more detailed ID?
www.stonogi.pl/warsztaty/dipterainfo1.jpg

Posted by eklans on 19-06-2020 16:55
#2

Hello, it's an Ichneumonidae, female Pimplinae, I think - do have more photos of this one?

Eric

Posted by Jan Maca on 19-06-2020 17:02
#3

Apparently not Tenthredinidae - too many antennal joints. Having seen only this one photo, I cannot exclude Apocrita: Aculeata.

Posted by eklans on 19-06-2020 17:05
#4

With some ???: Delomerista mandibularis (Ichneumonidae - Pimlinae - Delomeristini) - I will check...

Eric

Posted by stober on 19-06-2020 21:21
#5

It seems exactly like here: https://www.commanster.eu/Commanster/Insects/Bees/SpBees/Delomerista.mandibularis.html But it is only one picture in all google ;) However it's definitely not Tenthredinidae. Thank you for help! :)

Posted by Juergen Peters on 20-06-2020 08:25
#6

Hello,

stober wrote:
It seems exactly like here: https://www.commanster.eu/

caution! That website is not reliable. Many misidentications there.

Posted by stober on 20-06-2020 09:33
#7

That was what I was afraid of.


Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello,

stober wrote:
It seems exactly like here: https://www.commanster.eu/

caution! That website is not reliable. Many misidentications there.

Posted by eklans on 20-06-2020 12:22
#8

The problem with the identification is described on the commanster website itself, too:
https://www.comma...aveat.html
And it is never a good idea to rely on only one source - whatever you are searching for.
Pimplinae and even Delomerista mandibularis could be close but even if if you go back to Schmiedeknecht's Pimpla mandibularis you will not find a final answer in this case.
But anyhow we should continue to keep the eyes open.

Greetings, Eric