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Posted by Ruslan on 15-06-2020 19:12

Ukraine, Kherson, steppe 13.06.2020. 8-13 мм.
Thanks in advance for the help in determining.

Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:22

Posted by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:05

This is Asilidae, but something less commonly encountered. Could you add a photo that clearly shows the wing venation, and a photo that clearly shows the apex of the anterior tibiae?

Posted by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:11

Also, if you can, I would encourage you to collect more of these, especially some females.

I see it was collected in steppe. What was the microhabitat? What was it perching on?

Edited by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:15

Posted by Ruslan on 16-06-2020 12:28

Chris Cohen, thank you very much!
I will photograph the drumstick and biotope tomorrow.

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 16-06-2020 23:19

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I don't know??? Something close to Heteropogon/Anisopogon? Sorry, I don't have a clue literally...

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:11

female

Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:18

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:16

#13

biotope

Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:20

Posted by Chris Cohen on 17-06-2020 18:41

#14

Excellent work Ruslan!

I'm still working to ID this fly, but I can say for now that this is something very unusual.

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 19:06

#15

Should I put a few legs from these flies in alcohol for DNA? :)

Posted by Chris Cohen on 17-06-2020 20:27

#16

How many specimens do you have? If you have an extra, I'd suggest throwing the entire specimen into 90-100% ethanol.

I don't want to get ahead of myself, but these may end up being type specimens so I would prefer at least 1 male and 1 female stay fully intact.

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 20:55

#17

6mm /4ff on needles already. But if necessary, I can take a few more for alcohol. They live at a distance of 800-900 meters from my garden. :)

Posted by Chris Cohen on 17-06-2020 21:25

#18

Yes, if you can get a few fresh specimens into ethanol that would be very good (1-2 would be sufficient).

I'm assuming they perch/hunt from the vegetation?

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 21:34

#19

Yes, they sit exclusively on the grass. In the middle tier.

Posted by Ruslan on 30-06-2020 09:58

#20

Is a Cyrtopogon sp. possible?

Posted by Chris Cohen on 30-06-2020 17:09

#21

I would say no, unless the species was placed in the wrong genus. Cyrtopogon has a pronounced facial swelling (gibbosity) and the structure of the antennae are quite different. It is also generally 'hairy' and not so much 'bristly'. Compare with https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=960.