Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Eumerus cf. amoenus, Israel
Posted by GlassOWater on 09-10-2007 14:14
#1
Taken in Jerusalem, about 12 mm in size.
There are two white spots in the abdomen.
Eyes are tight - male?
Edited by GlassOWater on 24-10-2007 14:44
Posted by GlassOWater on 09-10-2007 14:15
#2
Mostly white abdomen.
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 09-10-2007 15:10
#3
A male in the genus Eumerus, probably not further identifiable!
Greetings
Posted by GlassOWater on 09-10-2007 15:17
#4
What is needed for further identification?
Posted by Andre on 09-10-2007 17:08
#5
The pinned specimen, preferrably with the genitalia extracted. And some good literature :)
I'd be interested to try...
Posted by GlassOWater on 09-10-2007 18:32
#6
I don't collect insects. :)
Posted by John Smit on 09-10-2007 19:15
#7
Or a picture of the abdominal pattern and a better picture of the fourth sternite, this might do the job, but I can't promise a sure id.
John
Posted by Maddin on 11-10-2007 18:01
#8
Without a good look at the genitalia, there is not much somebody can say about the species. But if you want a good guess, from the overall shape, the thin stripes on the thorax head shape etc, I would guesss it is Eumerus amoenus. It is common in Israel, but there are many even undescribed species there...
Cheers
Martin
Posted by GlassOWater on 12-10-2007 11:55
#9
Thanks! I don't have better pictures of that one, so we'll have to do with
Eumerus cf. amoenus! And on a different note, how come you know about taxonomy in Israel?
Posted by Maddin on 23-10-2007 23:50
#10
GlassOWater wrote:
Thanks! I don't have better pictures of that one, so we'll have to do with Eumerus cf. amoenus! And on a different note, how come you know about taxonomy in Israel?
I collected there many years ago (awesome collecting, many new spcies) and I know several Dipterists from Israel (Amnon Freidberg, Netta Dorchin)...
I just finished a work about Nemotelus of Israel with Amnon (and I was planning to work on some of the Eumerus from there).... So there are many connections...
Posted by conopid on 24-10-2007 00:05
#11
Hi GlassOWater
It would really help you to identify flies if you did collect some of them. Can I encourage you to try collecting?
Posted by GlassOWater on 24-10-2007 14:41
#12
Very interesting Martin!
As for Nigel, well, I would like to collect. But right now I don't have the time for it, since I'm starting my military service in less than 3 weeks. So I'm just trying to learn as much as I can without putting too much time into this. :)
Posted by Andre on 05-11-2007 21:33
#13
Come on, refuse! Bar Rafaeli is also not going to join....! :p
Posted by GlassOWater on 06-11-2007 12:14
#14
:D
Because of this it now it is dangerous to mention her name in Israel...
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