Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Diaea dorsata??
Posted by Iolaire on 03-09-2007 12:36
#1
Hi there,
This spider has been subject for discussion for quite some time now. The latest (very uncertain) ID is Diaea dorsata (and then one with some sort of colourvariation or, in fact, a young individual).
I'm still in the dark here. Can anyone give a definite ID?
The picture was taken in june/july this year, in my own garden (shrubs, fruittrees and grass) somewhere in the suburbs of the town of Alkmaar (the Netherlands).
Edited by Iolaire on 03-09-2007 12:37
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 12:47
#2
i think that this is not Diaea.. with this photo it can be Philodromidae or Thomisidae. :S
Posted by Andre on 03-09-2007 14:08
#3
And as its prey: Rhingia campestris
[still unknown for Portugal, Jorge! B)]
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 16:48
#4
no.... :)
Posted by Juergen Peters on 03-09-2007 21:58
#5
Hello!
jorgemotalmeida wrote:
i think that this is not Diaea.. with this photo it can be Philodromidae or Thomisidae. :S
Looks like a
Philodromus dispar female with its broad, white lateral band.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 22:32
#6
Philodromus is a good choice! :) P. dispar I don?t know that species. We have 18 Philodromus known for Portugal.
Posted by Iolaire on 03-09-2007 22:41
#7
Cheers you all!
P. dispar it'll be (for now)
Thanks,
Iolaire
Posted by Juergen Peters on 03-09-2007 23:05
#8
Hello!
jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Philodromus is a good choice! :) P. dispar I don?t know that species.
In my books
P. dispar is described as "rather rare" here in Germany, but in the last two or three years it has become very frequent, also in our garden and at toolshed and house. Has outrun the "trivial"
P. cespitum by far.
Larger pic of another female:
http://insektenfo...ntid=15015
And a male:
http://insektenfo...ntid=13795
Edited by Juergen Peters on 03-09-2007 23:07
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 23:08
#9
this is without doubt a Philodromus :)
Posted by Iolaire on 04-09-2007 08:49
#10
Juergen and Jorge,
Again thanks for leading me to Philodromus dispar. After reviewing other pics of this species I'm for about 99% convinced it ?s P.dispar. In Germany maybe a rare species, but in the Netherlands quite common (so I read). There are colourvariations known for this spider and the one in my picture could well be a young female. It never crossed my mind to look into the Phildromus-species, let alone P.dispar 'cos the Dutch name for P.dispar is Black running spider. Looking at my picture "black" is not what comes to mind!
Cheers!:D
Posted by Juergen Peters on 04-09-2007 18:59
#11
Hello!
Iolaire wrote:
mind to look into the Phildromus-species, let alone P.dispar 'cos the Dutch name for P.dispar is Black running spider. Looking at my picture "black" is not what comes to mind!
Right, but look at the male on my link above... ;)