Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Neoascia cf. interrupta
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 17-11-2016 09:45
#1
Hi,
is it possible to ID?
NE Poland 27042016
Best regards
Joao
Edited by affiniscyanoviridis on 23-11-2016 08:38
Posted by Sundew on 22-11-2016 02:32
#2
This might be
Neoascia podagrica, but these flies are tricky. To differentiate between
Neoascia and
Sphegina one needs to see the wing venation.
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 22-11-2016 09:38
#3
Ok, thanks for your reply.
I will check if I have a decent pictutre from the top!
Best regards
J
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 22-11-2016 09:52
#4
Maybe it will help!
Regards
J
Posted by Sundew on 22-11-2016 14:16
#5
Neoascia podagrica has darkened cross veins that form a right angle (see
https://www.flick...638744863/ and compare with a
Sphegina in
http://syrphidae..../file/3049). I think we can see three straight dark lines here, so I would prefer that species. Labeling the pics "
Neoascia cf.
podagrica" should not be too wrong!
Posted by Fred Fly on 22-11-2016 14:27
#6
Hi Sundew,
keep in mind that there are additional Neoascia with darkened cross veins. Par example N. interrupta which has a short third antennal segment and three pairs of spots (tergites 2-4 each one pair).
Very best regards
Posted by Sundew on 22-11-2016 16:17
#7
Nice to hear from you, dear Piet - I have already missed you! Indeed I overlooked
N. interrupta that is not comparatively illustrated in my book and usually looks more colourful than
N. podagrica (see
https://www.flick...383858487/). There seem to be yellow spots at the basal corners of tergite 4, so "N. cf. interrupta" would possibly be closer to the truth :).
Posted by Fred Fly on 22-11-2016 20:14
#8
Dear Sundew, I missed you too! This female of Neoascia is indeed belonging to interrupta. I would expect this species in Poland in marshy areas surounding larger rivers and lakes or near Baltic Sea.
Very best regards
Piet
Posted by affiniscyanoviridis on 23-11-2016 08:31
#9
Hi,
thanks you both for time and ID.
Best regards
Joao
Posted by Sundew on 24-11-2016 01:44
#10
You can delete the "cf." :D Piet's identification is reliable without doubt.