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Posted by Quaedfliegh on 19-08-2016 00:07

I still think it is an Andrenosoma species because the proboscis seems to be dorso/ventrally flattened and the shape of the antennae point in that direction. Do you have more pictures?

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 25-08-2016 18:36

Aha! The wing venation clears a lot (but not all) This is a Pogonosoma species closely related to Andrenosoma. I can't find a good key yet but it could be P. minor Loew 1869.

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 26-08-2016 14:00

I think you mean P. maroccanum? P. minor is known from a lot of eastern-European countries so it would be very plausible that the species is also present in Turkey. Do you have access to a good checklist for Turkish Diptera (Asilidae in particular)?

Posted by Eric Fisher on 02-09-2016 21:15

#10

I'm pleased to verify that Reinoud is correct in his ID of this fly: it is Pogonosoma minor (smaller, darker-legged cousin of the familiar P. maroccanum). Please add to gallery. Thanks,

Eric

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 30-09-2016 00:37

#11

Thank you Eric.... maybe this is useful, if unknown https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282185562_Diptera_of_Turkey_Priamus_Suppl_28_ii_1-411_186_figs_166_maps_3_tables

And indeed P. minor is not in the list...

Posted by tabiatdostu on 07-10-2016 18:48

#12

Hi
I've seen before , P.maroccarum 20 mm in size. but these individuals 10 mm?
Türkey Mersin There are record, my friend.
Tarsa yellow and intense seta ...I want to know, how?
Thank you.
Best regards
Fikret

Edited by tabiatdostu on 07-10-2016 18:55

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 07-10-2016 23:35

#13

I am not sure if i understand your question correctly but the species in your pictures is Pogonosoma minor Loew 1869. New species!!!!!!! for Turkey!!!! "minor" means small in Latin. The species is distinctly different from P. maroccanum....

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 09-10-2016 02:52

Posted by tabiatdostu on 08-10-2016 16:36

#14

I am so sorry :( I did not fully understand.

I understand now.
Best regards
Fikret

Edited by tabiatdostu on 08-10-2016 16:39

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 01-06-2018 22:30

#15

@ Eric Fisher How can this specimen be separated from P. unicolor? They seem to be rather similar....and Loew's description of minor is very limited, both species seem to be small and black, he doesn't describe the abdomen of minor :-(

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 01-06-2018 22:56

Posted by Eric Fisher on 02-06-2018 21:29

#16

Hi Reinoud,

My ID was based on comparisons to photos I took of an identified P. minor female specimen in the BMNH years ago. Otherwise, all I know is the Loew description in Engel... The female I photographed ("Serbia - Jugoslavia"/ identifier not recorded) at BMNH has an entirely pale yellow mystax), so differs somewhat from the photos provided here by tabiatdostu, which show a blacker mystax. Don't know the significance of that really, but inclined to assume simple variation (happens often between American spp. P. ridingsi and P. dorsatum). More info on these seemingly scarce Palaearctic Pogonosoma spp. is clearly needed...

Cheers,

Eric