Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ichneumonidae
Posted by Isidro on 12-07-2007 09:01
#1
Last Saturday at Sierra de Guara, Aragon, Spain.
Size: maybe 2'5 cm without antennae and evopositor.
Habitat: wall in a village, Mediterranean pre-pyrenees, dominated by Buxus sempervirens, Pistacia terebinthus, Quercus ilex and Rhamnus alaternus.
I have more pictures (lateral view and head) but are very bad, if someone need it for identify I will upload these pictures.
Thanks!
Posted by ChrisR on 13-07-2007 01:41
#2
My guess is Braconidae ... but that's just because most dark-winged ichneumons with long ovipositors tend to be braconids :D
Posted by cthirion on 13-07-2007 10:05
#3
not Braconidae, is Ichneumonidae Gelinae;)!
Posted by Isidro on 14-07-2007 22:48
#4
More approximation???? Genus???....
Thanks....
Posted by cthirion on 15-07-2007 00:37
#5
?I do not work this group!
near steanrella????:(
Posted by Isidro on 16-07-2007 00:20
#6
A friend tell me Wroughtonia spinator. Is correct?
Posted by cthirion on 16-07-2007 09:01
#7
I do not think, it is Braconidae!
http://www.bembix.de/gallery/ichneumonidae-htm/Wroughtonia%20spinator.htm
Posted by Isidro on 16-07-2007 22:17
#8
You have reason! Is not W. spinator! The picture of the link have slighlty different shape, the posterior femora are very different in colour and form, and the posterior tarsus are more white in W. spinator than in my insect...
I upload more pictures, but are not good quality and probably aren't enough to identify it...
Some more opinions? Christian?
Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 16-07-2007 22:30
#9
I don't work with Ichneumonidae, and I think only a true specialist should give a diagnosis. The 4000 Central European species (some less in Spain) are really close and similar, and identification is nearly impossible in most cases. I know some specialist, and they all hesitate or avoid to identify photos.
Regards, Christian