Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Identification issue with an Heleomyzidae

Posted by Bscrl on 12-09-2015 01:57
#1

Hello,

Here enclosed, a link to some pictures of an heleomyzidae which as been seen in the darkness of a bunker on the Col de Tende (in the Alpes at around 1800m high) at the border France/Italy.

I am not sure whether the picture will be sufficient to determine the genus/specie, but any clue or idea are welcome. B)

http://www.insect...p;t=146559

Thanx for your help!

-Bscrl-

Edited by Bscrl on 12-09-2015 01:59

Posted by Andrzej on 15-09-2015 01:54
#2

male of Gymnomus sp. Did you collect it?

Posted by Bscrl on 03-10-2015 21:37
#3

Andrzej wrote:
male of Gymnomus sp. Did you collect it?


Thanks a lot for your feedback, unfortunatly, i didn't collect it. :S
Are you sure about the genus Gymnomus ?
Because someone suggested Scoliocentra (villosa (?)) because of the 'short' basitarsus.

Best Regards,

-Bscrl-

Edited by Bscrl on 03-10-2015 21:39

Posted by Andrzej on 03-10-2015 22:41
#4

Mesopleuron bare! Isn't it? :)

Posted by Bscrl on 04-10-2015 09:54
#5

Hello Andrzej,
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
As a beginner, i am not sure about what is called Mesopleuron, and since depending the authors, it seems that this term can be ambiguous, just to understand your question in the right way, i have a little adding question :
In the Fig 5 of the chapter "Thorax of Dipter" of http://www.giand....mp;lang=en, to which area (from 8 to 14) are you refering to ?

Many thanks again for your help :)

-Bscrl-


Posted by Paul Beuk on 04-10-2015 10:41
#6

Here is the mesopleuron, nowadays mostly called the anepisternum.

Posted by Bscrl on 04-10-2015 11:14
#7

Thanks Paul for this precision
Then yes , as far as i can see on the pictures i've taken, the anepisternum of my heleomyzidae looks hairless:)
Is Gymnomus the only genus of Heleomyzidae having this characteristic ?

Edited by Bscrl on 04-10-2015 11:30

Posted by John Carr on 04-10-2015 12:02
#8

In the key to nearctic Heleomyzidae, several genera have bare anepisternum.

Posted by Bscrl on 05-10-2015 01:27
#9

Is that key public ?


Posted by John Carr on 05-10-2015 02:07
#10

Manual of Nearctic Diptera and other important Canadian publications:
http://www.esc-se...fcmono.php. Cyclorrhapha (including Heleomyzidae) are in volume 2.

Species of North American Heleomyzidae were revised in 1962: http://www.biodiv...0#/summary

Posted by Bscrl on 05-10-2015 13:08
#11

Thanx a lot for the link ! |t

Edited by Bscrl on 05-10-2015 13:09