Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ibisia marginata

Posted by solito de solis on 15-04-2015 22:25
#1

larvae living in a quiet and sandy freshwater, collected yesterday

rodredi.free.fr/at.jpg


Who can tell me what are these tapering projections we see on the different abdominal segments (different of the hooked prolegs)?
Are they gills too ?
Is this larvae Atherix sp or Atherix Ibis ?

thank you
SDS


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Edited by solito de solis on 16-04-2015 19:57

Posted by atylotus on 16-04-2015 14:21
#2

These lateral projections on the abdomen are too long for Atherix. So this must be Ibisia marginata. According to the literature: Atherix should have the integument appearing smooth and clean while in Ibisia it appears rugose and frequently covered with particles or chalc concretions (at low magnification) but I can't see that. The tapering hairy prolongations at the end do not have an actual gill-function but it uses it as floating hairs and lobes so their actual posterior spiracles will come into contact with the surface. Were did you collect it?
By the way if it was Atherix, you couldn't identify it to species level for A. flavipes haven't been described as larvae.

Edited by atylotus on 16-04-2015 14:26

Posted by solito de solis on 16-04-2015 14:52
#3

Hello... glad to receive your message
I found this individu in the Aisne river
here
rodredi.free.fr/mrc.JPG

Do you believe I can let Atherix or make change to Ibisia ?
Nevertheless, this organism is an Athericidae, isn't it ?

merci
Solito

Edited by solito de solis on 16-04-2015 14:53

Posted by atylotus on 16-04-2015 15:36
#4

Ibisia marginata it is, which is Athericidae
May I suggest to add your record to http://observado.org/

Edited by atylotus on 16-04-2015 16:30

Posted by solito de solis on 16-04-2015 17:49
#5

Veel bedank, Heer Atylotus
Your suggestion observado will receive my attention

I post here a few details of this larvae ( after two days left in the sample without alcohol or whatever formaline)

last floating hairs
rodredi.free.fr/im/im01.jpg


first proleg hooks
rodredi.free.fr/im/im02.jpg

first proleg (one of)
rodredi.free.fr/im/im03.jpg

head
rodredi.free.fr/im/im04.jpg

antenna ?
rodredi.free.fr/im/im05.jpg

lauterborn organs ?
rodredi.free.fr/im/im06.jpg

last and single big proleg (double sized)
rodredi.free.fr/im/im07.jpg

spines on the "skin"
rodredi.free.fr/im/im08.jpg

sided projection articulation
rodredi.free.fr/im/im09.jpg

last abdominal segment side hairs
rodredi.free.fr/im/im091.jpg


eyes
rodredi.free.fr/im092.jpg


merci
SOlito

Edited by solito de solis on 16-04-2015 18:10