Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ichneumonidae? Braconidae? with very long ovipositor

Posted by Isidro on 08-05-2007 16:28
#1

I don't know how it's said this word in English, excuse me.

Strange ichneumonid at Tauste, Aragon, Spain, february 2007. 4-5 cm, but the body sizes only about 2 cm.

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Thanks!

Edited by Isidro on 10-05-2007 09:29

Posted by cthirion on 09-05-2007 17:48
#2

Hello Isidro!
The photograph is remained in the box!

Posted by Isidro on 10-05-2007 00:50
#3

Oh, sorry!

I don't know what happened. Yesterdey I saw the pictures!

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Try now!

Thanks! ;)

Posted by ChrisR on 10-05-2007 01:05
#4

My guess is family Braconidae but the photo is lacking detail and scale. Many pimpline ichneumonids have long ovipositors but I don't know any pimplines with darkened wings.

Posted by cthirion on 10-05-2007 08:41
#5

Braconidae for my!;)

Posted by Pierre-Nicolas Libert on 10-05-2007 08:47
#6

With the details visible on the photo it can also be a Ichneumonidae Cryptinae. Have a look at the petiole on the second photograph.

Posted by cthirion on 10-05-2007 11:53
#7

With share Parasilsila gladiator, I do not know a such long drill nor wings such sunk in this group Cryptinae!
Like Chris..... always!
One would need a detail of the wing!

Edited by cthirion on 10-05-2007 18:43

Posted by ChrisR on 10-05-2007 12:01
#8

I have seen tropical braconids like this (with incredibly long ovipositors) and in general I usually guess if an ichneumonoid has very darkened wings it is most likely to be a braconid. But like cthirion said, we need to see wing venation to be sure.

Posted by Isidro on 10-05-2007 15:15
#9

Thaks!
I don't have more photos. Sorry.
I don't find "Paralsilsila" in Google...

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 10-05-2007 21:08
#10

it seems really a braconid wasp.

Posted by cthirion on 10-05-2007 22:16
#11

Parasilsila gladiator=Stenarella domator now!;)