Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Opesia sp, Tachinidae, Hungary September 2006

Posted by Xespok on 24-04-2007 23:04
#1

Lateral view. Possibly Phasia sp. Another view on my website.

Edited by Xespok on 04-05-2007 07:09

Posted by ChrisR on 25-04-2007 09:26
#2

If it is a phasiine I'd guess it was closer to Ectophasia (no petiole on veing-M) but it is very hard to guess the size here. It looks small to me - have you checked if it has a subscutellum?

Posted by Zeegers on 25-04-2007 16:45
#3

The other picture shows an open topcell, so this must be, again, Opesia.


Theo Zeegers

Posted by ChrisR on 25-04-2007 16:52
#4

Grrrr Opesia ... I was trying to think what else it could be because Ectophasia seemed such a silly suggestion for something that looks so small. :) Does the time of year suggest O.cana? Ironically, I have an Opesia grandis in a box next to me on the desk - first record for the UK.

Posted by Zeegers on 25-04-2007 19:10
#5

Opesia grandis from UK ??

Quite a surprise.


Well, then you can check the genus, at least


Theo

Posted by ChrisR on 25-04-2007 19:16
#6

Yes, I was called on to confirm the identification last year. It keys to Opesia cana in Belshaw (1993) but the collector noticed that the flight period was wrong for O.cana. In Tschorsnig & Herting (1994) it keys easily to O.grandis :D I emailed photos to Peter Tschorsnig and he said it was beyond doubt and a very good record indeed.

The same collector (Ivan Perry) also took Bithia demotica (another new to the UK) in the same year and so we all think he has the 'magic touch'! ;)

Posted by Xespok on 04-05-2007 07:12
#7

I checked the Hungarian literature on this genus, from these photos it is difficult to get beyond genus level. Interestingly O. species are supposed to be rare in Hungary, it is interesting that I got two records from two different areas in one year.

Theo, Chris thx for you help with this and other recent threads posted by me.

Edited by Xespok on 04-05-2007 07:15

Posted by ChrisR on 04-05-2007 10:18
#8

I think Opesia spp. are rare wherever they occur. Which either means they really are very rare or very localised ... or we just don't catch enough because we're looking in the wrong places or using the wrong techniques! :)