Thread subject: Diptera.info :: What it is the main CHARACTER?
Posted by awab on 20-04-2007 19:43
#1
What it is the main CHARACTER between Fanniidae & Muscidae? so I can distinguish between them.
Thanx B)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 20-04-2007 19:59
#2
wing venation is good character for example: see this
http://www.flycon...6A-F.shtml
BUT this is the WRONG section for this kind of question. You should put it in GENERAL QUERIES section. Paul Beuk will migrate this to the correct section I think. :)
Jordan... let?s go see some interesting flies. ;)
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 20-04-2007 21:07
Posted by crex on 20-04-2007 20:20
#3
Wikipedia:
The Fanniidae were once a sub-family of Muscidae from which they may be distinguished by:
A (strictly)dorsal bristle on the hind tibia below the middle and in addition to the dorsal preapical; axillary vein strongly curved towards the wingtip so as if extended the axillary and anal veins would meet before reaching the wing tip; in males middle tibia with erect pubescence beneath; in females frontalia without crossed bristles, frontal orbits broad, convex towards median line of frons and with two pairs of strong upper orbital bristles, the anterior pair turned outwards ...
Posted by awab on 20-04-2007 20:24
#4
I appreciate your help, and her in a fly from JORDAN ...
Posted by awab on 20-04-2007 20:24
#5
:)
Posted by awab on 20-04-2007 20:26
#6
Iam a studant working on Forensic Entomology :), I want simple things to used, thanx u all :)
Posted by ChrisR on 20-04-2007 20:49
#7
My first guess is that the photographs are of tachinids (parasite flies), not muscids (vein-M is angled and the body has some strong bristles). But I am not good enough to be able to suggest a name for something flying in Jordan :) I think it might be possible to arrive at an identification with a specimen, but not a photograph :(
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 20-04-2007 20:58
#8
well for forensic entomology: Sarcophagidae, Calliphoridae, Phoridae, Piophilidae, Muscidae and Fanniidae are the most important talking in dipters (coleopters, some hymenopterans, moths, etc are the others). I think that piophilid flies "visits" more other corpses than the human corpse.. (not sure about this).
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 20-04-2007 21:06
Posted by Zeegers on 21-04-2007 07:49
#9
Dear Awab
The last picture is of a Tachinidae in the genus Linnaemyia.
You are welcome to send me specimens for ID (please use private mail of this forum).
I agree with Chris, we from Europe can't help you in these cases without the real material in our hands. It is difficult enough, Tachinidae, as it is.
Theo Zeegers
Posted by Xespok on 21-04-2007 07:58
#10
The first pic might show a Pollenia sp, female. I do not knwo whether this Calliphorid genus has any forensic significance, since most Pollenia are thought to develop in earth worms, as far as I know.