Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Laphystia and Psilocurus from Monegros

Posted by picotverd on 26-06-2013 17:02
#1

This last weekend at a salty place, north Spain
Subfamily (given by Jorge Almeida) and genus given by Eric Fisher.

Edited by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:42

Posted by picotverd on 26-06-2013 17:03
#2

another view

Posted by Eric Fisher on 27-06-2014 19:28
#3

Laphystia cf. erberi, male. Possibly this is Laphystia erberi (males with distinctive genitalia, see Engel 1938: 255). Almost can see genitalia in first fig. but not enough visible...; shape of antenna and colors of body setae look good for L. eberi (although tibia with more red than typical?).

Posted by picotverd on 30-06-2014 19:41
#4

Thanks Eric for your comment.
When last year 22.06.13 I could observe this flies I could distinguish between a more obscure one wich it was plenty of it, see this photo, and the whitish one on the top of the post, from wich I only saw twice. For me they were cleary different (colouration). Notice also the lenght from the wings, longer at this individual...

Edited by picotverd on 30-06-2014 19:49

Posted by picotverd on 30-06-2014 19:47
#5

By the way, I have remembered I have a copulation from 31.05.14 that could be also Laphystia in another place from Monegros. So its widespread through that zone.

Edited by picotverd on 30-06-2014 19:55

Posted by picotverd on 22-06-2015 10:56
#6

A couple of them collected at this salty place, this last weekend. It was windy and it was very scarce.

Posted by picotverd on 22-06-2015 11:02
#7

The other one, more big...

Posted by picotverd on 22-06-2015 11:03
#8

A lateral view from the first one...

Posted by picotverd on 22-06-2015 11:05
#9

The other one...

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 22-06-2015 14:33
#10

Yet another Spanish mystery. These last two creatures seem to be different species. The copula, we cant see enough, but the right creature seems to have a red base at hind femora what would point at L. hispanica Strobl 1906. I think the type material of this last species should be in Madrid, maybe you can compare.

Posted by picotverd on 01-07-2015 09:16
#11

A couple of days ago I could take an image and collect this one, at the same place where the copulla where...

Posted by picotverd on 01-07-2015 09:16
#12

at home...

Posted by picotverd on 01-07-2015 09:17
#13

lateral

Posted by picotverd on 01-07-2015 09:19
#14

And finally a comparation with the other 2 specs collected before...

Edited by picotverd on 01-07-2015 09:23

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 18-11-2015 02:37
#15

I am just studying my two females Laphystia and that is why i checked this thread again......The two females i have got are Laphystia erberi.... The last pictures you added are another genus that i can't find yet...... have a look at the wing venation (3rd medial cell M3)and the antennae...... i dare not say what it is, Psilocurus?..... It is not Glyphotriclis or Laphystia........PS: Also look at the shape of the head, distance between the eyes and last but not least mystax. I think the copula is not Laphystia either ...but probably this last species.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 19-11-2015 23:54

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 21-11-2015 16:13
#16

The last one is Psilocurus!!!!!!! cf blascoi Weinberg/Bächli 2001 The type specimens were collected near this location : )

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 21-11-2015 16:14

Posted by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:33
#17

Thank you very much for the Ids!!
Here a bonus track: at the same place that occurs P. blascoi I have checked photos and found this one, I cannot distinguish between P. blascoi and L. erberi...

Edited by picotverd on 23-11-2015 12:59

Posted by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:34
#18

Another view

Edited by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:39

Posted by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:35
#19

Another view...

Posted by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:37
#20

Take a look at the place...

Posted by picotverd on 23-11-2015 11:37
#21

last

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 23-11-2015 16:47
#22

These last creatures are Laphystia again cf erberi...Nice habitat pictures

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 04-12-2015 01:04
#23

Very nice habitats!

Posted by picotverd on 30-05-2016 10:42
#24

I have visit this place again -see habitat photos- a couple of days ago, and could find again a copula from L. erberi, and some individuals, so I can say it is quite regular. This time I did not found Psicolorus but I will come back to try to take a picture from the copula...

Edited by picotverd on 30-05-2016 10:43

Posted by picotverd on 30-05-2016 10:46
#25

Also found this species some kilometers from this place, not sure if it is the same species...

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 30-05-2016 22:55
#26

Both the copula and the other specimen are Psilocurus blascoi ;) Pay attention to the antennae. Very different from Laphystia ;) Also the mystax is different (very densely haired face in Laphystia).

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 30-05-2016 23:23