Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phlogophora meticulosa + tachinidae
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 07-03-2007 00:30
#1
hello Flyforum,
On 20-02 I found the caterpillar of Phlogophora meticulosa in the center of Amsterdam.
I kept it in a little box, where it went into some ground.
Today 7-03 I got surprised to see some(3) flies in the box. I did not order them! ;)
It are Tachinidae sp. and perhabs Lydella sp.?
I took some pictures of a female:
Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 07-03-2007 00:47
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 07-03-2007 00:31
#2
picture 2
Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 07-03-2007 00:32
Posted by ChrisR on 07-03-2007 10:43
#3
Certainly looks like a tachinid - but if those eyes are hairy then it can't be
Lydella. Would be nice to see the face from the side and the front too :D My guess is
Phryxe nemea, which is a known parasitoid of
Phlogophora meticulosa.
See
http://tachinidae...brcno=6104
Chris R.
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 07-03-2007 11:17
#4
hi Chris,
I will take some new pictures from the face soon.
What I have seen, there where blond haires on the eyes.
On the first picture you can see some of them..
thank you for your reaction :)
Posted by Zeegers on 07-03-2007 22:09
#5
I agree, Chris
This could/should be a male Phryxe nemea
Theo
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 08-03-2007 00:15
#6
Thanks again Chris and Theo.
I was wondering why this is a male?, how do you see?
On pictures underneath you see the blond hair on the eyes.
Robert,
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Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 08-03-2007 00:16
#7
detail eyes
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Posted by ChrisR on 08-03-2007 00:56
#8
Yes, I'd be even more inclined to call it
Phryxe nemea :) I think Theo would be sexing it using the presence of proclinate parafrontal bristles, but I can never remember this rule :D
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 08-03-2007 12:24
#9
''the presence of proclinate parafrontal bristles''
I have to study this, let's see how many males and females I have..
My first Tachinidae sp. of this year! :)
Posted by Zeegers on 08-03-2007 18:30
#10
Rule of thumb: males have vertex smaller, thus no proclinate orbitals (simply no space).
females have vertex broader, thus 2 pair of proclinate orbitals.
All kind of exceptions do exist. Like Phryxe males:
vertex broad, yet still no proclinate orbitals in males.
Robert, take a female and look below the vertex between the eyes, the proclinate (=voorwaarts gerichte) orbitals can't be missed.
Theo
Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 10-03-2007 12:44
#11
I have checked the proclinate orbitals.
It are two females and one male.
female;
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Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 10-03-2007 12:47
#12
male
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