Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinid fly?
Posted by Martin Suvak on 12-02-2007 10:05
#1
Hello,
size cca 6.5 mm, xerothermal habitat, Slovakia, July 2005
I have only this dorsal view. Is it possible to identify it (at least approximately), please?
Martin
Posted by ChrisR on 12-02-2007 14:43
#2
It does look like a phasiine tachinid - but not
Phasia sp. (there's no petiole). To be honest though, I am not entirely sure what it is - we'll have to wait for Theo I think :)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-02-2007 15:17
#3
What about Clytiomya (continua?)?
Posted by ChrisR on 12-02-2007 16:18
#4
Well, I have never seen a confirmed
Clytiomyia and the only one I have here is orange, and looks very like an
Eliozeta. But perhaps the other sex is brown (?) ... not sure - I wish they were commoner here in the UK :)
Posted by Zeegers on 12-02-2007 22:03
#5
Yeap, it's Clytiomyia
It could have been Eliozeta as well, however, it's not pellucens because of the arista and not helluo because of the colouration.
So this leaves Clytiomyia.
CAn't tell the colouration of hairs on pleurae. Still.C. continua is the most likely bet.
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 12-02-2007 23:28
#6
So, are
Eliozeta and
Clytiomyia sexually dimorphic? The ones I have seen have always had a vivid orange abdomen.
Posted by Martin Suvak on 13-02-2007 08:37
#7
The genus (and even species!) specification is more than I could expect from such view, thank you very much Chris, Nikita and Theo.
I had a look at my general key for Slovak Diptera (Doskočil 1977) and there are mentioned 2 Clytiomyia species - C. continua and C. helluo and one Heliozeta species (=Eliozeta?) ? H. pellucens, all mentioned also by Theo. Apparently, taxonomy of Tachinidae has changed from that time, :). But from the faunistic viewpoint, can it be other Clytiomyia species than C. continua in Slovakia?
Martin
Edited by Martin Suvak on 13-02-2007 13:15
Posted by Zeegers on 13-02-2007 19:28
#8
Well, you are right, Martin,
Heliozeta = Eliozeta and helluo is in that genus now.
C. continua is the only sure Clytiomyia for Slovakia. There is a very small chance you might have C. sola in the south.
Normally one can check this on www.faunaeur.org, however, it is down at the moment. So try yourself sometime this week.
Greetings
Theo
Posted by Martin Suvak on 14-02-2007 09:14
#9
Thank you for additional information Theo. I will try this page later (at the moment, it is really non-functional)
Martin