Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Opomyzoidea?
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 10-07-2005 14:34
#1
Moscow region, july, 3-4mm.
My work with identification key lead me to superfamily Opomyzoidae.
Am I right, please.
Posted by Paul Beuk on 10-07-2005 16:00
#2
The top one is a member of the Lauxaniidae, but I am at the moment hesitant to put a name on it.
The bottom one, I think, is
Clusia flava of the Clusiidae.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 10-07-2005 16:11
#3
1. Thank you Paul.
2. My message with two "long-snout" Syrphidae disappeared from forum sooner than I write in my notebook the name of second fly genus identified by Mr.Kahis
Posted by Jan Willem on 10-07-2005 16:56
#4
If I had to guess I would also have called the top one a lauxaniid. However I disagree on the second one. In the
Clusia flava specimens I have studied I remember seeing dark spots at the back of the head which are missing in you specimen. More important your specimen has post-ventral bristles, which should be absent in
Clusia flava. It does remind me of a member of the Scatophagidae, more specifically
Norellia spinipes! Maybe Herman de Jong can confirm this.
Jan Willem
Posted by Paul Beuk on 11-07-2005 00:04
#5
JeeWee wrote:
I disagree on the second one. In the Clusia flava specimens I have studied I remember seeing dark spots at the back of the head which are missing in you specimen. More important your specimen has post-ventral bristles, which should be absent in Clusia flava. It does remind me of a member of the Scatophagidae, more specifically Norellia spinipes! Maybe Herman de Jong can confirm this.
Jan Willem
You got a point. However, as far as I know the
Norellia species are active much earlier in the year as the adults have to oviposit on daffodils. Maybe another scathophagid?
And Herman is still no member of this group...
Posted by Jan Willem on 11-07-2005 19:54
#6
How about
Norellisoma spinimana (also Scatophagidae)? In my notes I have collecting data of this species (all identified by Herman de Jong) from April, May, June, July, August, and September. This species also fits better considering the orbital bristles!
The larvae of
Norellisoma spinimana are stem-borers in various
Rumex species.
Jan Willem
Posted by Paul Beuk on 11-07-2005 20:50
#7
You see: When we all stick together we will get somewhere! :D
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-07-2005 21:23
#8
Paul and Jan, thank you