Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Face to face ? fly vs. spider

Posted by Martin Suvak on 27-12-2006 12:48
#1

Hello,

Please, can comeone help me to identify this fly (or even spider)?

Size: cca 2.5 mm?
Habitat: light forest with oaks, cherries and black locusts
Slovakia, Kosice, 300 m a s.l., July 2005

Spider prey is probably Formica sanguinea. The fly seems to be very impertinent, it feeds literally from spider mouth, :).

The situation is also here:
http://www.fotoaparat.cz/index.php?r=25&rp=209911&gal=photo

Thanks for any ideas.

Martin

Posted by Martin Suvak on 27-12-2006 12:49
#2

Another views

Posted by Paul Beuk on 27-12-2006 13:05
#3

The fly is a chloropid of the genus Tricimba. I have seen such behaviour in Desmometopa of the Milichiidae, but never in Chloropidae.

Posted by Martin Suvak on 27-12-2006 13:34
#4

Thaks a lot Paul!
I have also seen various flies in the vicinity of spiders with prey but this situation was very strange for me. In my photos there is probably also Desmometopa sp. on a honeybee attacked by the wasp Vespula germanica - I will sent it later.

Martin

Posted by Paul Beuk on 27-12-2006 15:17
#5

Desmometopa are very 'fond' of honeybee preys of spiders, robberflies and reduviid bugs.

Posted by Martin Suvak on 28-12-2006 13:57
#6

Thank you Paul for additional information. I am sending a Desmometopa (as I guess) in next thread.

Martin

Posted by Juergen Peters on 28-12-2006 18:56
#7

Hello!

Because nobody mentioned the spider: it's a crab spider (Thomisiidae) of genus Xysticus.

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 28-12-2006 19:21
#8

Hello!
I seen very similar situation.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 28-12-2006 22:42
#9

That is Desmometope all right.

Posted by crex on 29-12-2006 07:29
#10

Mielczarek wrote:
Hello!
I seen very similar situation.


The spider is Misumena vatia, I think.

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 29-12-2006 10:31
#11

Yes. The spider of the year 2006;)

Posted by Martin Suvak on 29-12-2006 10:53
#12

Juergen, thanks for spider identification!
To Mielczarek: Very interesting photo, poor spider, :).

Martin