Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Herina palustris., Ulidiidae, Hungary

Posted by Xespok on 04-12-2006 20:51
#1

Do not know what this could be. Similar to Madiza glabra, Milichiidae posted as a dead specimen by someone earlier last week.

Edited by Xespok on 09-12-2006 09:36

Posted by Xespok on 04-12-2006 20:53
#2

A view from the top.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 04-12-2006 20:57
#3

I think it is Ulidiidae.
Nikita

Posted by Xespok on 05-12-2006 21:53
#4

Thx Nikita, the yellow area between the eyes is quite characteristic for Ulidiidae, so you may well be right.

Posted by John Smit on 06-12-2006 11:17
#5

Genus Herina, but there it ends, for the time being.
I'll have a look, but I can't promise you anything.

Cheers,

John

Posted by John Smit on 08-12-2006 11:27
#6

Hi Xespok,

Either Herina oscillans, or H. palustris.
Only separable on the aculeus, so impossible to identify from a photograph.

Best wishes,

John

Posted by Xespok on 08-12-2006 13:39
#7

Thx John, I try to look up the Hungarian literature concerning these species.

Posted by Xespok on 09-12-2006 09:35
#8

John, this will be H. palustris. Based on the literature that I have the most obvious difference between oscillans and palustris is that in the former species the antennae attach to the head around or below the verical axis of the eye, whereas in the later it is clearly attached to above the axis.

Oscillans should also live in dry sand habitats, wheras palustris lives in marshy areas. Oscillans is rare and local in Hungary and palustris should be common in the lowland marsh habitats. So palustris it will be.

Posted by John Smit on 09-12-2006 10:35
#9

Ahh, Gabor is your real name.
In that case hi Gabor!

Thanks for the uodate.
I was not aware of the differnce in placement of the antennae, nor in the habitat. I did assume that H. palustris would be more common than H. oscillans.

Best wishes,

John