Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phoridae --- oppss Hybotidae!, and now: Ulidiidae (not Stratiomyidae) bubbling..

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:49
#1

Once again, hi :)




* locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL
* date - 8.11.2006
* size - 2 mm (very small fly)
* habitat - farm
* substrate - orange fruit tree

Phoridae fly? .. not sure!

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 18:00

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:50
#2

another view..

Posted by Paul Beuk on 21-11-2006 16:52
#3

Let's make it Hybotidae: Platypalpus sp.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:53
#4

to see othe fly: stratiomyidae ...

* locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL
* date - 27.10.2006
* size - 6 mm (medium fly)
* habitat - open land
* substrate - above grapefruit

which genus?

the title could be something like this :) "where to has gone the thief??? There, my Sir!" :)
this fly dances a lot with first legs, that is a spectacle to see this show. ;)

static.flickr.com/117/281477654_d08fbdfbc6.jpg

to see it larger :
http://www.flickr...654&size=l

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:56

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:54
#5

Paul Beuk wrote:
Let's make it Hybotidae: Platypalpus sp.


hmm... why? :) misleading again. :(

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:59
#6

and another view of last fly...

Posted by crex on 21-11-2006 17:07
#7

Dear Jorge - One species per thread ;)

Many flies in Portugal this time of the year it seems :)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 17:10
#8

crex wrote:
Dear Jorge - One species per thread ;)

Many flies in Portugal this time of the year it seems :)


it is boring to see so many threads with my name. :) so i tried this time to put more one specie. :) ok. i know. ;)

About flies, yes, here in this epoch there were some interesting flies. :)
No snow for here :( , but still rain a lot.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 17:29

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 17:28
#9

other... but fly bubbling...

Posted by Tony Irwin on 21-11-2006 17:56
#10

Hi Jorge
This pretty "stratiomyiid" is actually Physiphora alceae (Ulidiidae). The wing venation is wrong for Stratiomyiidae.
The wing venation is also how to separate Hybotidae from Phoridae - but there are other, more easily seen characters. As a rule, the hind legs of Phoridae have very large femora. In Platypalpus it is the middle femora which are enlarged. Also most phorids have strong reclinate orbital bristles, giving them a characteristic head profile. So far there are only three phorid pictures in the gallery, but there are lots in the forum posts, so it's worth doing a search to familiarise yourself with them.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 17:59
#11

Tony Irwin wrote:
Hi Jorge
This pretty "stratiomyiid" is actually Physiphora alceae (Ulidiidae). The wing venation is wrong for Stratiomyiidae.
The wing venation is also how to separate Hybotidae from Phoridae - but there are other, more easily seen characters. As a rule, the hind legs of Phoridae have very large femora. In Platypalpus it is the middle femora which are enlarged. Also most phorids have strong reclinate orbital bristles, giving them a characteristic head profile. So far there are only three phorid pictures in the gallery, but there are lots in the forum posts, so it's worth doing a search to familiarise yourself with them.


i?m still learning. Thanks Tony. I will see gallery, with more care. It tooks some more time to familiarize with all these families. I know some guys took some time to grasp it with good knowledge. :) And even so. ;) To wrong is "uman" :)

Thank you.