Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Termite and wasp?????
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 12-11-2006 21:22
#1
Hi fly (and now HYM)forum :) too! ehe
I took this one in Serra da Estrela not so far from Seia. This was took near the famous "Cabe?a da Velha".
The one white is ISOPTERA - termite. But the other one intrigued me.
I think that is a wasp because antenna doesn?t seem from an ant, and the eyes, and head format remember me more a wasp than an ant.
what do you think?
The termite has about 4 mm and wasp about 1 mm. Indeed, I just realize that wasp in photo!!!!! not there???!!!!
Please see this fantastic duo. :)
of course, we will need to see it bigger:
http://www.flickr...509&size=l
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 12-11-2006 21:24
Posted by cthirion on 12-11-2006 23:06
#2
Proctotrupoidea female not winged....first attempt!;)
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 13-11-2006 00:13
#3
Hmmm,
My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae.
If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! :D
Greetings, Gerard
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 02:34
#4
Gerard Pennards wrote:
Hmmm,
My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae.
If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! :D
Greetings, Gerard
why you think this wasp can be Ceraphronoidea? which characters in photo told you that coud be that family? Thank you!
Perhaps it would help to see a much bigger size. Take a look on this size:
http://www.flickr...630&size=o
Proctoss... appears! :)
I wish to know which can be this termite too. The photo needs total ID, at least, genus level. :)
Thank you.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 03:05
Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-11-2006 09:46
#5
Hmm, I would not be surpised if it was Scelionidae either...
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 12:38
#6
Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea, Scelionidae .... so many guess.. it is not easy. :( see the bigger image, it could help to realize which this wasp could be...
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 14:51
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 14-11-2006 12:22
#7
please... who can help on ID of this wasp?
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 14-11-2006 16:38
#8
Well Jorge,
As you see (by the answers given so far) the problem is that on the picture there are not enough details visible to put a name on it with certainty. Our guesses go into the same direction, because Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea and Scelionidae are close relatives within Hymenoptera.
People like me see the picture and a name pops up in the head, but only based on the general appearence, not based on clear characters in the picture.
It will be hard to come to a definite conclusion if the specimen is not available! :(
Greetings,
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 14-11-2006 17:05
#9
Hi
ok. I see. And if we advance with Dryinidae family?
No, I don?t have the specimen. :(
Perhaps Proctoss can give us some clues! :)