Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phasia
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-08-2006 20:14
#1
Moscow region, 23 aug, 4-5mm.
Female of Phasia obesa?
Posted by Tony Irwin on 23-08-2006 22:01
#2
I'd say so, but you know what my record on Tachinidae is like! :p
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-08-2006 22:26
#3
Late summer is good time for bad Tachinist, grace to somehow recognisable subfamily Phasiinae!
:D
Posted by Zeegers on 23-08-2006 22:28
#4
Well, I see only 1 row of bristles on the parafrontalia and the genitalia suggest pusilla, so my guess would be pusilla
Theo
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-08-2006 22:35
#5
Theo, halteres are yellow!
Posted by Tony Irwin on 23-08-2006 22:49
#6
Theo - I thought that the ovipositor in pusilla curved downwards - have I got it wrong? :|
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-08-2006 22:56
#7
parafrontalia & genitalia
Posted by ChrisR on 23-08-2006 23:06
#8
I'd go with
P.obesa (female) - yellow hairs on the gena & yellow haltares :D
Posted by Zeegers on 24-08-2006 20:12
#9
Maybe the first picture fooled me ?
The shape of the tip of the ovipositor is not like obesa, there is a downwards oriented 'pin'-thing. Or is this something behind the ovipositor ?
The halteres seem to be yellow, though very out of focus, I'n not sure.
The genitalia resemble most Ph. pandellei.
However, I am not going to give such an extreme ID on a photo, not matter how good the effort, Nikita.
So, let's wait for the specimen.
Theo Zeegers
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-08-2006 20:43
#10
Thank you Theo.
OK, you'll get speciment mid-september. I have to say that this time I'm 100% sure, that 1-st and 2-nd photo are of the very same fly.
Nikita
Posted by Zeegers on 24-08-2006 20:52
#11
Hi Nikita,
I noticed this summer in Siberia that Russian have a good sense of humor!
I only just noticed your left new picture.
It is clearly not subgenus Hyalomyia, so all my contributions are wrong.
Except for the part that I might have been misled on the genitalia in the first picture.
So it should be obesa, chris was right all along!
Still nice to have a look at the real material.
Theo
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-08-2006 21:24
#12
Theo, your authority is so doubtless, that if once you tell that elephant is Tachinidae we all have to believe it!
Nikita
Posted by Zeegers on 24-08-2006 21:43
#13
I have said it before: keep checking !
thanks guys
(and IDing Tachinidae remains one of the most dangerous professions on earth !)
Theo